The Vampire army vil containe 20 Grave Guard + lord, 30 skeletons + Wight Battle Standard Bearer, 1 Corpse Cart + Necromancer,
10 Dire Wolves, and 3 big units of zombies
My idee is to attack the Grave Guard + lord whit the sword masters
Archmage Lvl 4: Silver wand, Power stone (high magic) 290
Mage level 2: Seerstaff (Lore of fire) 175
Mage level 2: (high magic) 135
BSB: Heavy armour, shield, Battle banner (go with Sword masters) 191
20 Spearmen full command 205
20 Spearmen full command 205
20 Spearmen full command 205
19 Sword masters full command, banner of sorcery 365
1 Bolt thrower 100
11 Archers 121
Total 1992
2000 pts HE vs VC/Zombie army
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Re: 2000 pts HE vs VC/Zombie army
Your characters look OK on the whole except I think you have too many. I'd drop at least one Mage and possibly two. I also think you need at least one dispel scroll and the Ring of Fury wouldn't go amiss. The BSB is a bit vulnerable on foot, I'd either mount him for the 2+ save or give him different magic items.
The problem with the Spear units is that they don't have the combat power to beat his good stuff, which means they will autobreak as soon as they are outnumbered. I would put Lion Standard on one and drop at least one more. You might get away with the BSB in a second unit but I'd be tempted to drop that too.
The Swordmasters will go well here but they need some Fear protection IMHO. Champion with Gem of Courage is the minimum I think. Ideally Standard of Balance and Talisman of Loec on the champion to win combat.
One bolt shooter is not enough. At least two I suggest and an eagle or two also, which will let you lead his combat blocks around by the nose.
The problem with the Spear units is that they don't have the combat power to beat his good stuff, which means they will autobreak as soon as they are outnumbered. I would put Lion Standard on one and drop at least one more. You might get away with the BSB in a second unit but I'd be tempted to drop that too.
The Swordmasters will go well here but they need some Fear protection IMHO. Champion with Gem of Courage is the minimum I think. Ideally Standard of Balance and Talisman of Loec on the champion to win combat.
One bolt shooter is not enough. At least two I suggest and an eagle or two also, which will let you lead his combat blocks around by the nose.
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Re: 2000 pts HE vs VC/Zombie army
That probably won't work. The toughness and armour of the GG is enough to reduce your damage, and the Vampire Lord is worth 5+ kills a round, even swinging second. It will definitely fail if he has a vampire hero with the helm of commandment, meaning you hit on 4s instead of 3s.RGudmandsen wrote:My idee is to attack the Grave Guard + lord whit the sword masters
Need Ring of Fury and a couple scrolls. With just 2000 pts, I would drop the third Mage. Or the BSBRGudmandsen wrote:Archmage Lvl 4: Silver wand, Power stone (high magic) 290
Mage level 2: Seerstaff (Lore of fire) 175
Mage level 2: (high magic) 135
He won't survive against a Vampire Lord. The Battle Banner always always always goes on a horse for the extra armour save, but that still won't be enough to keep him alive against a Vampire Lord.RGudmandsen wrote:BSB: Heavy armour, shield, Battle banner (go with Sword masters) 191
While spears are pretty decent against zombies, it will still take them too long to kill a zombie block. 3 spear blocks never makes sense.RGudmandsen wrote:20 Spearmen full command 205
20 Spearmen full command 205
20 Spearmen full command 205
In general, they need fear protection. Right now, you lose one round (and you will lose a round), and you are gone. I would also give the champion Talisman of Loec.RGudmandsen wrote:19 Sword masters full command, banner of sorcery 365
Where are the other rares?RGudmandsen wrote:1 Bolt thrower 100
Archers are taken as 110 pt units to meet min core. Only. Therefore this unit should not exist. At minimum, they should be replaced by an RBT which is cheaper and provides more effective shooting.RGudmandsen wrote:11 Archers 121
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Re: 2000 pts HE vs VC/Zombie army
how would you make the armylist?
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Re: 2000 pts HE vs VC/Zombie army
Maybe:
Archmage, Wand, Stone, Ring of Fury
Mage, Seerstaff, Scroll
BSB, Battle Banner, 2+Save kit.
20 Spears, FC, Lion Std.
10 Archers
14 Swordmasters, FC, Standard of Balance, Talisman of Loec
2 RBT
2 Eagles
plus whatever else you fancy and can afford. Dragon Princes are a good bet, maybe to carry the Banner of Sorcery.
Archmage, Wand, Stone, Ring of Fury
Mage, Seerstaff, Scroll
BSB, Battle Banner, 2+Save kit.
20 Spears, FC, Lion Std.
10 Archers
14 Swordmasters, FC, Standard of Balance, Talisman of Loec
2 RBT
2 Eagles
plus whatever else you fancy and can afford. Dragon Princes are a good bet, maybe to carry the Banner of Sorcery.
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Re: 2000 pts HE vs VC/Zombie army
Spearmen cant have magic banner or am i wrong?20 Spears, FC, Lion Std.
Re: 2000 pts HE vs VC/Zombie army
Basically what spellarcher said. I'd take a third Mage with Ring of Corin instead of the BSB, and I'd keep Seer on the Archmage, but basically that. One core unit can take a banner up to 25 points.
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Re: 2000 pts HE vs VC/Zombie army
If you've got a couple of blocks, having them immune to Fear against army-wide Fear causers like VC's is eminently desirable.RGudmandsen wrote:Spearmen cant have magic banner or am i wrong?
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