Hello fellow elf players!
Like so many others I've been a long time stalker here, but recently I felt like sharing my list that I've been playing since the start of 8th ed.
It have worked well for me in most cases, but I wanted to hear your thoughts on the list.
Here's the list:
LORDS
Archmage lvl. 4 (Shadow)
ToP
HEROES
Mage lvl.2 (Beast or High usually)
Dispel scroll
Noble BSB
Great weapon
Armour of caledor
CORE
30x Spears FC
Gleaming pennant
12x archers
12x Archers
5x Ellyrion reavers
SPECIAL
28x White Lions FC
27x Phoenix Guard FC (BSB here)
5x Dragon princes
RARE
2x Eagles
1x Frost Phoenix
HE 2500pts all comers list
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- Green Istari
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Re: HE 2500pts all comers list
Welcome Sweden!
It’s a good list. With the threat of Mindrazor from Shadow it’s got three blocks that are dangerous in combat, it’s got good magic some redirectors and a Frostheart. It might struggle against a gunline because M5 is not that fast or against an enemy with lots of fliers that it could struggle to pin down.
It might be an idea to replace the Phoenix (and one Eagle) with four RBT. This stops enemies flying around with impunity. It also lets you outshoot more opponents, meaning they have to come to your blocks. A unit with The Withering on it is in for a bad time vs four RBT. The Frostheart is good but I feel the RBT are a better fit here.
I would put World Dragon on the Lions, it’ll make them practically immune to half the stuff they care about. I’d take an Arcane Item on the Archmage, probably Book of Hoeth though there’s a case for Earthing Rod with Shadow’s love of dice. Razor Standard on PG is almost a standard pick to give them more bite vs armour. I’d pay for these by dropping the DP’s (in my experience they’re not that good) or possibly some elite infantry from each block.
It’s a good list. With the threat of Mindrazor from Shadow it’s got three blocks that are dangerous in combat, it’s got good magic some redirectors and a Frostheart. It might struggle against a gunline because M5 is not that fast or against an enemy with lots of fliers that it could struggle to pin down.
It might be an idea to replace the Phoenix (and one Eagle) with four RBT. This stops enemies flying around with impunity. It also lets you outshoot more opponents, meaning they have to come to your blocks. A unit with The Withering on it is in for a bad time vs four RBT. The Frostheart is good but I feel the RBT are a better fit here.
I would put World Dragon on the Lions, it’ll make them practically immune to half the stuff they care about. I’d take an Arcane Item on the Archmage, probably Book of Hoeth though there’s a case for Earthing Rod with Shadow’s love of dice. Razor Standard on PG is almost a standard pick to give them more bite vs armour. I’d pay for these by dropping the DP’s (in my experience they’re not that good) or possibly some elite infantry from each block.
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Re: HE 2500pts all comers list
Thank you Spellarcher for your comment! I will try the suggestions you gave me as soon as I can, probabley next week.
Last week I played a 3k game against Skaven. It was a really fun game alot of back and forth but in the end the rats snatched the victory.
The dreaded 13th killed 18 WL in the first magic phase and his 50 plague monks with plague furnace killed both my whittled down PG, spears and wounded frostie in turn 5.
After that....well, GG.
Last week I played a 3k game against Skaven. It was a really fun game alot of back and forth but in the end the rats snatched the victory.
The dreaded 13th killed 18 WL in the first magic phase and his 50 plague monks with plague furnace killed both my whittled down PG, spears and wounded frostie in turn 5.
After that....well, GG.
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Re: HE 2500pts all comers list
Sounds like a tough battle. Skaven are one of the harder opponents for HE to face. They usually don't care about ASF, since they have the bodies to absorb most of the damage. And usually one of the weaknesses of Skaven is that they don't have a lot of high S attack, but you don't really need those against elves. Add in dreaded 13th and a plague furnace and you've got a great list to deal with HE.
Not sure if there's much you can do against the plague furnace. The only downside is frenzy I think, so you can redirect it a couple of turns and make it get in the way of some of the Skaven army. if you actually want to take it down you either need to reduce the monks to manageable numbers and / or attack it from multiple sides with overwhelming force. If you've got high magic, then convocation and tempest are pretty good options I think.
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Not sure if there's much you can do against the plague furnace. The only downside is frenzy I think, so you can redirect it a couple of turns and make it get in the way of some of the Skaven army. if you actually want to take it down you either need to reduce the monks to manageable numbers and / or attack it from multiple sides with overwhelming force. If you've got high magic, then convocation and tempest are pretty good options I think.
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Re: HE 2500pts all comers list
You’re welcome Sweden, fingers crossed!Sweden wrote:Thank you Spellarcher for your comment! I will try the suggestions you gave me as soon as I can, probabley next week.
I largely agree. They are really good at killing Infantry and this list depends on it’s Infantry.Prince of Spires wrote:Skaven are one of the harder opponents for HE to face.
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