Help against Orcs and Goblins W/ Woc
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:04 am
So I'm currently involved in a series of three games where I am teaming up with Dwarves against Warriors and Orcs. Two 2k games on the flanks and a 4k game in the center. The flank games determine the center game's deployment. My team has lost the first of these due to poor communication and lack of information, as well as some bad luck. We need to win the next game, then try for the overall win.
While I don't know how the next games will be like, the first one we had 3 buildings. Whoever had control of 2/3 buildings by the end of the game won. Normally we just do kill points, so this threw me for a loop. Especially as I took an all cav based list.
From the end game talking with my partner, he will be taking a standard dwarf gunline list. So I can expect war machines, hand gunners, and quarrelers. Probably a couple of small combat units as well.
Based on what I know of my opponents, I can expect the Chaos player to take 40 Warriors marked and carrying with Halberds and Shields, A lord and bsb hiding in that unit, a chimera, and something else to 'round' out the list like 20 chosen and a lv 2 on a warshrine. He is of the opinion that large units are the only way to play the game, making playing against his stuff a grind. Example: After seeing 10 fast cav in a unit get murdered, he decided he needs to take more of them.
The Orcs will likely take a horde of 40 black or savage orcs with a good chunk of his characters, a horde of 100+ goblins, doom divers, mangler squigs, and stone throwers. He believes similarly to the chaos player that large units are the way to go. Again, this will be a grind, and an effort in pain. (Interestingly enough, both players hate deathstar units and call them gimmicks, but both run them aplenty.)
What do you guys think the best way is of handling this? My current list against them is 2 units of 15 Archers, some Reavers, 20 spears, a horde of White lions w/ botwd, 2 eagles, a bolt thrower, bsb, and 2 casters, lv2 Shadow and lv4 Metal.
While I don't know how the next games will be like, the first one we had 3 buildings. Whoever had control of 2/3 buildings by the end of the game won. Normally we just do kill points, so this threw me for a loop. Especially as I took an all cav based list.
From the end game talking with my partner, he will be taking a standard dwarf gunline list. So I can expect war machines, hand gunners, and quarrelers. Probably a couple of small combat units as well.
Based on what I know of my opponents, I can expect the Chaos player to take 40 Warriors marked and carrying with Halberds and Shields, A lord and bsb hiding in that unit, a chimera, and something else to 'round' out the list like 20 chosen and a lv 2 on a warshrine. He is of the opinion that large units are the only way to play the game, making playing against his stuff a grind. Example: After seeing 10 fast cav in a unit get murdered, he decided he needs to take more of them.
The Orcs will likely take a horde of 40 black or savage orcs with a good chunk of his characters, a horde of 100+ goblins, doom divers, mangler squigs, and stone throwers. He believes similarly to the chaos player that large units are the way to go. Again, this will be a grind, and an effort in pain. (Interestingly enough, both players hate deathstar units and call them gimmicks, but both run them aplenty.)
What do you guys think the best way is of handling this? My current list against them is 2 units of 15 Archers, some Reavers, 20 spears, a horde of White lions w/ botwd, 2 eagles, a bolt thrower, bsb, and 2 casters, lv2 Shadow and lv4 Metal.