Disclaimer: If this idea is bad, or already being implemented, please no mocking. My fragile ego can't take it

Well, with the site having been updated, and the library (sort of) being slowing improved, I think one thing is missing.

The Citizen Levy.

I don't know about everyone else here, but I for one have read all of the back issues (although it was a while ago now). I think it's time we got a new issue out, if only making it a collection of member articles put together over the next few weeks/months.

I'm not going to pretend I'm going to be able to this all myself. Currently, I have no idea how to convert a Microsoft Publisher article to Adobe or some such techno-babble. However, my exams are finished at the end of May, and with lots of free time, I'd be more than happy to start collecting, writing and editing articles, in a vague attempt to lay it out, before handing it over to someone to covert and put on the website for everyone to see.

Again, I have no fantasies about the length of time this would take. I have an amazing abilty to put things off until I loose all interest. However, I think that should this happen, at worst we'll have some interesting articles for the library. But, as I like to be involved in stuff like this, I'll proably get at least one or two completed... I have a few ideas already bumping around...

So, if you want to see this come back, and if so, can anyone help me with either the technical stuff, or article writing. If so, I'd like to hear what you have to say.

No, there are no active plans at the moment by the Loremasters to resurrect the Levy.


I'll preface this by saying that I have absolutely no problem with people wanting to produce another issue. I'd like to see one myself (although as of right now, I don't have the time to actively work towards creating one).

The principal issue, however, has always been that people tend to start out very enthusiastic, but as time goes on, they become less so, until when you reach the point at which everything is supposed to be submitted and completed, ready to be published, there isn't anything there. In other words, people tend to drop out. There's nothing wrong with this (I certainly wouldn't demand that people devote more time to the internet and a "freebie" e-zine than they do to the rest of their lives), but it is a recurring problem. As you yourself have said, P_A, you have an "ability" to put things off until you lose interest. It certainly isn't unique.

Now, moving on to "technical" issues, it isn't too difficult to set up a forum for people to work in (being mindful of the issue with availability and willing members as noted above). I'm not opposed to the idea of a new issue, as should be obvious - just mindful of the problems that will almost certainly spring up during development.

I posted some ideas about that at one time that I think would help make the CL more successful.

1) Smaller issues - don't put as many articles in each issue. This makes it quicker to assemble since there are less people to chase down to get their article done. It also means there is more chance of future issues.

2) Smaller articles - some of the past articles are very long. Nothing wrong with that if someone does churn out something big, but it doesn't hurt to have shorter ones. See above for reasoning.

3) Rather than assembling a permanent team, have it rotate. If someone is dedicated enough to act as compiler and/editor that's fine but not necessary. Rotate everyone else if possible so that no one is involved in more than one CL issue in a row. Keeps people fresh and interested.

If you are going to do it, that's how I would run it. (Of course, I'm not going to).

I'm available as an editor if people do decide to go through with this. I'd also volunteer for writing stuff but as there's plenty of people who can do painting, gaming or background much better than I can hope to at present I'll leave that to others.

I'd like to know if the same things that go in the Levy go in the Library.

Yes bring it back I liked it

I would be useless for tactics and scenery articles and the like, but if there was something I could add I would love to

Mabye we could have something like the Caledor Team, Nagarythe Team, Etc (You know that could be reason to bring back the old kingdom forums and that way they wouldn't go out and get locked)

Small revival.

Summer has begun, and my search for full time work has been pretty fruitless. I've arranged about 3 weeks of work but each day is only about 5 hours long. This, and the fact I'm only away on a single week of holiday means all the free time I hoped to have has arrived.

Therefore, I am hoping to start putting together the first issue of a new Citizen Levy. I'll be looking for the following:

An Editor.
Someone to convert a Microsoft office file to whatever format is required to put it onto the site.
An artist for the front cover.
People to do articles.

I'll be choosing article suggestions from users to put in, and then collecting the finished article.

Whoever volunteers to do the editorial will either be checking through the finished product which I will put together, or putting it together themselves from the articles I'll send them.

The artist simply needs to draw an interesting image to make a front cover - look at the existing levies for ideas.

However, most of you will be doing the article section and the following is my initial plan:

4 articles, around 3-4 pages in length. Any more and they may not be finished. I want an article on

a) Background - this can be anything from an interesting piece of fluff story or some elaboration on any aspect of High Elf Culture.

b) A painting article step by step - this can be anything from getting a regiment tabletop-ready, expert painting of a character or simply how to make nice scenic bases.

c) A tactics section - nothing major. Maybe how to make the best use of a single unit or character. Maybe how to beat a specific army. Whatever. If you do this, may I recommend some form of play testing or balance is checked through or I'll not be putting it forward.

d) An experimental rules section. Maybe a new character/unit type, provincial armies, or simply a scenario idea. Anything you can think of.

So there it is. Anyone interested in contributing to this attempt should PM me with their ideas and articles. I'll reply with what I think of it and some suggestions. If you're not accepted, try again next time - if we have more people than articles, I'll not choose the same person twice or I'll have more articles in. Please do not offer if you won't finish an article.

I want to get at least 2-3 of these completed before uni life takes full control again, so I'll set an intial deadline for entries to the 20th of July, and a completion deadline for the 20th August.

Any questions, PM me.

Cheers,

PA ~ bored forum member.

Has this started? I have read some of the citezen levies and though out of date they where intresting reads so I'd be intrested in more.

I could do painting stuff and battle reports but I dunno about the rest. Not very artistic or exactly a master tactitian. I think that it would probably be best if we did something a bit like white dwarf but without the advertisment and focused on HEs and fantasy. Also we need some comic story thing cause, well, we just do. That is a lot of commitment to write a comic every month though..

So whats happening?

Sorry mate, we had a pretty poor number of volunteers, so it's on the back burner again. And now I'm busy with mu university dissertation. If I ever get a sudden influx of writers, I'll try to implement it.

Okay, keep me on the list of potential writers

I remember discussing this with Fireheath ages ago.

Personally I would like to change the format a bit, opposed to an overall team there's site contribution.

So for instance we create a thread in the tactics forum "best two tactics articles go into the next levy"

One in the painting and modeling "best painted army gets show cassed...."

One in the story telling "Best fluff...."

Then at the end we simply collate the parts, give it a spit and pollish and tada.


If people like this idea I will go and create the posts today, letting them run for a while before we collate. We can also use the runners up in following levy issues when there's dry periods.

That is an exellent idea, you should do it

In the general warhammer forum put a thread for art for the cover as well
Is firehearth still around? I liked his parts in the Levies.

He's very rarely found in the story telling section, the last levy being his last as editor. I'll wait to see what the others think (P_A) etc and if I am not stepping on anyones toes I will have another go. (I was meant to be the editor of this version origninally but much like P_A got bogged down with real life.)

Be my guest Tahl, I'm happy to help.

Right thats the four competitions in the four forums up.



I've asked an old friend for a image for the front cover image, we'll see what he come back with.

Just a quick update. We now have:

+ a couple of tactics articles,
+ a story,
+ a painting and modeling article en route
+ an AOD nearing completion.

Outstanding would be the cover art and can anyone think of anything else missing that's usually in the CL?

That's great!

Has your friend got back to you about the cover art?

I think that's about all the CL has in it regularly. The unusual article where awesome though, I loved quest for the best Maybe that could be updated and started for the issue after this one?

What might be an idea is a member profile...

Proof reader wanted. Apply here.

I'm happy to proof read it. PM me with anything that needs checked

Cool will do, it'll probably be tomorrow as I am not at home tonight.