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Crowd-sourced Points for Age of Sigmar

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:06 am
by Sherman
I’m here to introduce a new site, ForcOrg.com. Age of Sigmar has introduced an opportunity that no other publisher has offered and I hope the community joins me in taking advantage of it. For years I’ve believed that miniature game balance could be better done by the community as a whole rather than any small group of playtesters hired by the companies that produce the miniatures. To that end, I offer up ForceOrg.com.

The goal is simple, crowd-sourced game balance. I have a belief that there are no good or bad models, only poorly pointed ones. For the right price, every model should be viable and no model should be an “auto-include”. So we’ve put together a site to create the opportunity to test that theory. Please check it out!

www.forceorg.com

We are setting things up in the same way as list building sites. Age of Sigmar is just the beginning. GW decided the community should decide how to balance the game, so it’s a great place to begin. However, Age of Sigmar was not the original idea and hopefully won’t be the end of it. Any miniature game can be hosted and judged by the community. Get tired of seeing the same lists at every event or never getting to play with your favorite models because there is something obviously better for the points? Help change the meta.

All you have to do is get on, and vote on the models you know. You can vote them up, down, or even to have them stay the same. All we ask is that you be sincere in your voting. What about the guy who sincerely thinks his army sucks and everyone else’s is way better? Well, that’s one person’s vote. Hopefully enough people are willing to make informed decisions to make this work. We do have a plan to deal with obvious trolls, but we really are expecting to have little to no issue with that.

So we’re looking for fans. Fans of Age of Sigmar to start, and ultimately fans of every game. No game has nailed the perfect point system that makes games feel balanced, and really, it’s not likely to ever happen. At the end of the day, people’s choices in game matter and that’s something that is impossible to quantify. What we can do it look for broad data samples. If it was possible to get everyone to report their games and army make-ups, we’d do that. Since that’s not an option, the next best option is to survey the player base.

How do you feel your match-ups are going? Is the orcish footsoldier on par with the elvish one? Is the cannon getting its value every game? Feel like one model took out half an army? Let us know! You don’t have to pick a point value. We’ll just bump it a little if we get enough votes saying it needs to go up. Then wait until we see votes saying it needs to go up further still, or maybe just happy where it’s at.

Talk about the models you know about. You could spend hours doing the math and seeing who’s superior, or watching games to see how certain abilities work in play (we certainly have!) but ultimately that’s not the goal. We just want to hear about your experience in the snippets it comes in. We’ve set up a reddit to discuss these things. We’re not trying to get anyone off the message boards they enjoy, we just want people to see when someone has something to say about the points of a particular model. It’s incorporated right into the site. See a model getting a lot of attention? Check out the reddit and see what’s up. We’re encouraging people to share their experiences there and hopefully lead the discussion towards the change they want to see. Again, you only get one vote on any given model. If you really think it needs to change, you might have to convince a few people as to why that is…

Anyway, check it out. The points are just a start. There is no promise they’re remotely balanced, that’s not the point. The point is to have your voice heard and keep the meta evolving. Let us know what you think!

Sorry if this comes off as spammy. To work we need all the input we can get!

Re: Crowd-sourced Points for Age of Sigmar

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:57 pm
by laurie1
Nice idea, I might try this out!