Re: Path To Glory - BR vs Wood Elves May 15th
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:37 pm
Very nice, especially the mage.
The 'throne' gives gravitas!
The 'throne' gives gravitas!
Mayhaps i will. I'm allready doing it on a Norwegian Warhammer forum, so i guess it wouldn't be too much of a problem doing one in english as well. I often feel trying to get solid tactical discussions is far more easilly acomplished here as there are so many more people i can reach here. I'm also doing a separate army blog for HE both here (although it hasn't been updated for months..) and on the Norwegian Forum, so i guess i could try to combine the two blogs into one here.sparkytrypod wrote: any chance you feel like doing a wood elf blog and chronicling your adventures...??
Don't get me wrong, he's a cracking kit-bash and he's certainly unmistakable for a PG - everything about him screams character, and with book, sword and armour there's really only one option there.Curu Olannon wrote:@Ferny - Usually these do provide us with the most flexibility since you can customize both the rider and the mount to a great degree. As for the Loremaster, I feel that the bits from the Dragon sprue (sword + book) along with the Helmet really make him stand out from other PG, but I get your points as the entire "main body" is PG parts. For the last mage, I`m looking to mix some WE parts as well. I`ll be picking up a Tiranoc horse tomorrow.
Basically we have 2 configurable Nobles and 283 points to play with (a few more could be freed, but it would take some hard convincing to do so). Interesting magic items include:Curu Olannon wrote: High Archmage L4 Steed, Power Stone, Crown of Command, Dragonbane Gem = 300
Prince on Barded Steed, Giant Blade, Dragon Armour, Dawnstone, Enchanted Shield, Ironcurse Icon = 282
Lords = 582
Noble BSB on Barded Steed, BOTWD, Heavy Armour, Shield, Lance = 172
Noble on Barded Steed, Ogre Blade, Dragonhelm, Dragon Armour, Shield = 147
Noble on Barded Steed, Lance, Dragon Armour, Charmed Shield, Luckstone, Potion of Strength = 131
High Mage Steed, Dispel Scroll, Ring of Fury = 145
Heroes = 595
18 Silver Helms, Full Command, Shields = 444
5 Reavers, bows = 85
5 Reavers, bows = 85
Core = 614
5 Shadow Warriors, Champion = 85
1 Frostheart Phoenix = 240
4 Repeater Bolt Throwers = 280
Special & Rare = 605
Army total = 2396
This one I really like. He hits hard on the charge and in one subsequent round as well. I am not sure if the Sword will usually be better or not, but it is undoubtely more expensive, so you will need to find some points. The Ogre Blade is a pretty safe bet as well, so it depends on whether you value reliability or potential damage more, I guess.Noble on Barded Steed, Lance, Dragon Armour, Charmed Shield, Luckstone, Potion of Strength = 131
Ah...so he can blame you guys for this DR?Dark Reaper wrote:He has to.
I hear you. Personally, I'm happy to play whatever is put in front of me (with tourney games of course you don't really get a choice!). But actively seeking out the toughest match-ups is admirable. Again I agree that an unpromising match-up can often be overturned by player skill but there are limits.Curu Olannon wrote:@SpellArcher - I have to seek all matchups to properly prepare I don't play Warhammer to boast on the internet of how many good matchups I can dominate nor to display an impressive W-L-D ratio. I play to improve my game, to be able to compete with the best and hopefully win tournaments, eventually. The best way to do this is to work on your weak parts. For the team tournament, knowing what matchups are -1s and what matchups are -2s are essential to our strategy. For a solo environment, having a trick or two and knowing what the best course of action is in a hard matchup can see a hopeless situation turn to victory. Player skill can overcome bad matchups, no doubt. Without experience however, even player skill will frequently be too little as you need to know the specifics, i.e. what hard choices to you usually have to make, what risks you need to take etc.
Regarding the cavalry list a guy in my community recently won a 20 player one day tournament using a somewhat similar list. Two primary things was changed.Curu Olannon wrote: High Archmage L4 Steed, Power Stone, Crown of Command, Dragonbane Gem = 300
Prince on Barded Steed, Giant Blade, Dragon Armour, Dawnstone, Enchanted Shield, Ironcurse Icon = 282
Lords = 582
Noble BSB on Barded Steed, BOTWD, Heavy Armour, Shield, Lance = 172
Noble on Barded Steed, Ogre Blade, Dragonhelm, Dragon Armour, Shield = 147
Noble on Barded Steed, Lance, Dragon Armour, Charmed Shield, Luckstone, Potion of Strength = 131
High Mage Steed, Dispel Scroll, Ring of Fury = 145
Heroes = 595
18 Silver Helms, Full Command, Shields = 444
5 Reavers, bows = 85
5 Reavers, bows = 85
Core = 614
5 Shadow Warriors, Champion = 85
1 Frostheart Phoenix = 240
4 Repeater Bolt Throwers = 280
Special & Rare = 605
Army total = 2396
His L2 got Iceshard + Harmonic.ETC FAQ wrote:Q: What kind of ward saves can be used against Arnzipal's Black Horror? Can you use Regeneration?
A: You can use only generic, all purpose Ward Saves and Magic Resistance. The spell doesn’t cause wounds so Banner of the World Dragon, Cloak of Twilight, and other Ward Saves against wounds caused by magic and similar do not work. No Regeneration.
I think the unit the prince is with will be hit instead since he hasn`t left the unit when the S&S is performed.He declared S&S with Hail of Doom, which presented an interesting question: would the Prince get the benefit from BOTWD?
Loved the imagery, very apt.Right now I feel my bus is like the Battlestar Galactica, its guns (= magic missiles) blazing and vipers (= prince + noble) being sent out on killer missions.
Huh, I hadn't thought of that but RAW it does seem to be correct. It does however raise questions regarding a 'killing blow' inflicted by a magic weapon (given that both the spell and KB use the same term 'slay/slain' to describe what happens to the victim).Q: What kind of ward saves can be used against Arnzipal's Black Horror? Can you use Regeneration?
A: You can use only generic, all purpose Ward Saves and Magic Resistance. The spell doesn’t cause wounds so Banner of the World Dragon, Cloak of Twilight, and other Ward Saves against wounds caused by magic and similar do not work. No Regeneration.
So basically we have a bus hitting at full strength with the BSB, a lot of Light Magic and the rest is pretty standard. The second unit of Helms is small, but they are fast and I don`t believe they can be reduced enough for the mages to be threatened. If they can, chances are I`m losing badly regardless and/or I`ve made som bad mistakes. Whether it can compete with high magic is yet to be seen, but S6 Banishment, boosted Pha`s and even Speed of Light is very strong with the rest of the list. Dropping the level on one mage even allowed the ring of fury, along with scepter of stability.Prince on Star Dragon: Star Lance, Dragonhelm, The Other Trickster`s Shard, Golden Crown of Atrazar, Shield = 598
Noble BSB on Barded Steed: Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield, Banner of the World Dragon = 172
Mage L2 Light on Steed, Dispel Scroll - 155
Mage L2 Light on Steed, Sceptre of Stability - 145
Mage L1 Light on Steed, Ring of Fury - 120
Heroes/Characters: 592/1190
14 Silver Helms, Full Command, Shields = 352
8 Silver Helms, Musician, Shields = 194
5 Reavers, Champion = 90
Core: 636
1 Great Eagle = 50
4 Repeater Bolt Throwers = 280
Frostheart Phoenix = 240
Special & Rare: 570
Army Total: 2396
Hmm, I guess I was wrong. The character counts as a separate target. See page 101 in the BRB.do you have a reference to the BRB here?