Tyrion

[schacht]

Now that Tyrion is cavalry does he the get look out sir from other cavalry? Can he still be singled out when in a unit?

[NightHawk45]

As long as you have enough RaF, you should be okay.

[John Rainbow]

As long as he is actually cavalry, he will get a look out sir in a qualifying cavalry unit.

[wisetiger7]

Do we use a new cav base for him? I believe that we are supposed to use the base that the model came with... which is a monstrous cav base. Or do we use his base and just call him cavalry?

[John Rainbow]

I guess technically you have to use the base he comes with, however, that was designed for a monstrous cav mount. I don't think people would have an issue with the usual cav. base now he is usual cav. so to speak.

[Enomiel]

His picture in the book have him on a normal 25x50 cavalry base.

[Shannar, Sealord]

I guess technically you have to use the base he comes with, however, that was designed for a monstrous cav mount. I don't think people would have an issue with the usual cav. base now he is usual cav. so to speak.

That is one heck of a lazy cop-out rule. Base sizes have changed frequently over the years. I have dragons that came on 40x40. Back in 6th they maintained a standard base size chart that you could find on the web. Apparently that's way to difficult now though.

[John Rainbow]

That is one heck of a lazy cop-out rule. Base sizes have changed frequently over the years. I have dragons that came on 40x40. Back in 6th they maintained a standard base size chart that you could find on the web. Apparently that's way to difficult now though.

Yeah but I think people should be able to find out what is 'standard' now. A monster/chariot is usually on a 50x100mm, monstrous infantry are on 40mm sq, etc, etc. It's not too bad, it's just the rule so people don't game for advantage.

[Shannar, Sealord]

That is one heck of a lazy cop-out rule. Base sizes have changed frequently over the years. I have dragons that came on 40x40. Back in 6th they maintained a standard base size chart that you could find on the web. Apparently that's way to difficult now though.

Yeah but I think people should be able to find out what is 'standard' now. A monster/chariot is usually on a 50x100mm, monstrous infantry are on 40mm sq, etc, etc. It's not too bad, it's just the rule so people don't game for advantage.

That's exactly my point. How hard would it be for GW to have that information available. Heck, a page in the back of the army book would do the job nicely.

[Enomiel]

Agreed, everyone have a complete recap of units at the end of his book, they could have added the base size or indicated in the BRB that base size are standard for a given type of troop unless noted otherwise.

[Spartacus]

The picture of Tyrion in the book still has him on a 50mm x 50mm base. Page 68. Being a specific unit type does not require you to have the standard base size usually used for that type.

[Enomiel]

Do not have my book now, but I'm pretty sure I saw him on a 25x50 base in the book gallery.

[Danidude]

Do not have my book now, but I'm pretty sure I saw him on a 25x50 base in the book gallery.

I have the book infront of me here now, he is on a 50x50. I can see why you might think its a 25x50 at first glance, as you have to study and know how the model is to know that it is a 50x50 base.

[Eltherion]

I think you would need to re-mount him on a cavalry base the model fits quite well on 1.

Unless it states he is Monstrous Cavalry, I don't have the book yet then he is just normal cavalry therefore needs re basing.

Yes he does get a Look Out Sir if in units of 5+ cavalry.

[Eirik]

Just for the record, the base size has no bearing on look-out-sir. If your base matches that of your unit, and you are a different troop type, you get no LoS. If your base size is different and you are the same troop type, you get a LoS.

Right?

[THRILLHELM]

^ definitely this. Slaan count as infantry and epidemius used to. Is dorghar a daemonic mount for archaon in the new book?

[Prince of Spires]

I think you would need to re-mount him on a cavalry base the model fits quite well on 1.

Unless it states he is Monstrous Cavalry, I don't have the book yet then he is just normal cavalry therefore needs re basing.

No. There is no such thing as a cavalry base. Just a most common base for cavalry models.

The rule from the BRB is that "a model is based on the base it came with". So if tyrion would come on a "chariot base" then he would need to be based on the chariot base but he would still be cavalry.

He comes on a 50X50 base, so that is what he needs to be based on. And he is cavalry, because that is what his entry in the army book sais he is.

Rod

[oreaper]

on this topic i have some LoTR eagles on 40mm babses, is this the right size. Idk b/c i've never bought the old wonkey ones bu i know the warhawks are on 40's (peg knights too right?) just trying to clarify b/c i dont w3ant to tear up my scenic babse, im not one to model for advantage and am trying to avoid such acusations

[pk-ng]

on this topic i have some LoTR eagles on 40mm babses, is this the right size. Idk b/c i've never bought the old wonkey ones bu i know the warhawks are on 40's (peg knights too right?) just trying to clarify b/c i dont w3ant to tear up my scenic babse, im not one to model for advantage and am trying to avoid such acusations

I don't think it's such a big problem. Since it's just eagles people should give you the death stare but they might give you the death stare if you placed Dragons on smaller bases.

[Shannar, Sealord]

on this topic i have some LoTR eagles on 40mm babses, is this the right size. Idk b/c i've never bought the old wonkey ones bu i know the warhawks are on 40's (peg knights too right?) just trying to clarify b/c i dont w3ant to tear up my scenic babse, im not one to model for advantage and am trying to avoid such acusations

If you do decide to move them to bigger bases (I did on mine) I wouldn't tear up the old ones if you like them. Instead just stick the 40mm base on top of a 50mm one and add to the effect.