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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:08 pm 
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So, as the title says, the theme of this list is...single bolts...depending on the version, ETC or SwedComp, it comes with 7-8 single bolts built in the list.

The list presented today has 7 of them, it is a Swed Comp 16.6 list built for a 14-20 Swed Comp tournament.


Without of further ado, here is the list:


1 Eltharion the Grim lv2 Death

1 Alith Anar

25 First Spearmen
Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Standard Bearer; Musician; Sentinel
Banner of the Eternal Flame

13 Archers
Longbow; Standard; Musician; Hawkeye

5 Ellyrian Reavers
Spear; Light Armour; Standard; Musician

5 Ellyrian Reavers
Spear; Light Armour; Standard; Musician

15 Phoenix Guard
Halberd; Heavy Armour; Standard; Musician; Keeper of the Flame
Razor Standard

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor
Lance; Dragon Armour; Ithilmar Barding; Shield; Standard; Musician; Drakemaster
Banner of Swiftness
Star Lance

1 Lothern Skycutter
Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower

1 Lothern Skycutter
Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower

1 Lothern Skycutter
Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower

1 Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower

1 Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower

1 Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower

5 Sisters of Averlorn
Bow of Avelorn ; Light Armour

5 Sisters of Averlorn
Bow of Avelorn ; Light Armour

1 Great Eagle

1 Great Eagle

Models in Army: 87


Total Army Cost: 2500.0


Further explanations when I get back home from work...xD

Feel free to fire away. :mrgreen:

The questions, I mean... :mrgreen: 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:37 am 
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I ain't complete sure about swedish comp as I don't play them, so if some choice is made specifically comp rules in mind forgive me ;)

ArhangelusM wrote:
13 Archers
Longbow; Standard; Musician; Hawkeye


I would leave command from such small unit. having 2 extra bodies and musician (well banner for blood and glory prolly)

ArhangelusM wrote:
5 Ellyrian Reavers
Spear; Light Armour; Standard; Musician


Due my personal usage of reavers I tend to sacrifice them pretty much everytime, so I don't see much point placing musicians to them (and standard even for blood and glory scene) If you are using notorious double flee tactic with them then you probably gain some advantage from musician.

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15 Phoenix Guard
Halberd; Heavy Armour; Standard; Musician; Keeper of the Flame
Razor Standard


I would add 5 bodies to this.

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5 Dragon Princes of Caledor
Lance; Dragon Armour; Ithilmar Barding; Shield; Standard; Musician; Drakemaster
Banner of Swiftness
Star Lance


I am under impression that generally drakemasters isn't allowed to carry star lance due the wording. Secondly I think that is rather expensive item for W1 model, making it near the cost of regular noble. Allthough 3 no armor saves allowed str 7 strikes is always appealing ;)

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As your list is going to be little evasive I would add shadow warriors for the alith anar. they can do nice dance accross the battle field and with extra protection Alith Anar seems more viable choice to be fielded as scout behind enemy lines for nice flanking bolt shots ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:27 am 
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13 Archers
Longbow; Standard; Musician; Hawkeye


I would leave command from such small unit. having 2 extra bodies and musician (well banner for blood and glory prolly)


More than 13 archers is more comp, so banner and stuff is to fill the core and bring an extra banner for scenarios.

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5 Ellyrian Reavers
Spear; Light Armour; Standard; Musician


Due my personal usage of reavers I tend to sacrifice them pretty much everytime, so I don't see much point placing musicians to them (and standard even for blood and glory scene) If you are using notorious double flee tactic with them then you probably gain some advantage from musician.


Well, reavers in my games range from cannon fodder and redirectors to small cc units, so the banner has shown itself useful, and also fills the core points without raising body count which raises comp and/or gives uneven number for core points.

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15 Phoenix Guard
Halberd; Heavy Armour; Standard; Musician; Keeper of the Flame
Razor Standard


I would add 5 bodies to this.


Raises the comp score and also no points, would have to kick some shooting out and that goes against the whole concept. :mrgreen:

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5 Dragon Princes of Caledor
Lance; Dragon Armour; Ithilmar Barding; Shield; Standard; Musician; Drakemaster
Banner of Swiftness
Star Lance


I am under impression that generally drakemasters isn't allowed to carry star lance due the wording. Secondly I think that is rather expensive item for W1 model, making it near the cost of regular noble. Allthough 3 no armor saves allowed str 7 strikes is always appealing ;)


Well, it has been FAQ-ed, at least in ETC FAQ that Starlance can be used by champ, and yes, it is expansive but gives quite the punch to the unit...and S6 on charge, DP champ is alas only S3... :mrgreen:

Shadow warriors would be nice, yes, but for them I'd have to kick out a unit of sisters which is not an option, since I am quite pleased with their performance in the list.

All in all, I try to shoot first and ask question later with this list, so low body count on PG and DP is not that big an issue, especially in the SweComp 14-20 environment. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:08 pm 
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I probably should leave any comment on comps aside ;)

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No, no, feel free to comment on anything, I like to have a different point of view on my lists, as it gives me insights on it's weaknesses or overlooked details...:)

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ArhangelusM wrote:
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Well, it has been FAQ-ed, at least in ETC FAQ that Starlance can be used by champ, and yes, it is expansive but gives quite the punch to the unit...and S6 on charge, DP champ is alas only S3... :mrgreen:

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You are mistaken on this part. ETC FAQ states that the Drakemaster cannot carry the star lance


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Mea culpa...missed it... :shock:

Will have to rework the DP unit then...xD

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:07 pm 
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*after some sounds of hammers hitting anvils at the Vaul's Forge, comes out with soot on his face, and holding a swelling thumb in ice*

Ok, I think I got it now...xD

So my new and improved list:


Eltharion the Grim
General; Magic Level 2; Lore of Death

Alith Anar

25 First Spearmen
Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Standard Bearer; Musician; Sentinel
Banner of the Eternal Flame [10.0]

13 Archers
Longbow; Standard; Musician; Hawkeye

5 Ellyrian Reavers
Spear; Light Armour; Standard; Musician

5 Ellyrian Reavers
Spear; Light Armour; Standard; Musician

15 Phoenix Guard
Halberd; Heavy Armour; Standard; Musician; Keeper of the Flame
Gleaming Pendant

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor
Lance; Dragon Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Drakemaster; Ithilmar Barding
Banner of Swiftness

Lothern Skycutter
Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower

Lothern Skycutter
Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower

Lothern Skycutter
Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower

5 Shadow Warriors
Longbow; Light Armour

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower

5 Sisters of Averlorn
Bow of Avelorn ; Light Armour

5 Sisters of Averlorn
Bow of Avelorn ; Light Armour

Great Eagle

Great Eagle

Models in Army: 92


Total Army Cost: 2500.0


Kicked out Starlance and Razor banner, threw in some Shadow warriors, causing my comp score to drop to 15.8, which I'm not happy about, but will live through it... :mrgreen: 8)

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no BSB?

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I would think that deployment and game style with this list would be evasive and wide spread. BSB wouldn't really help much.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:16 am 
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In the darkness of the End Times, wish me luck my fellow Asur, for this list of mine is going on a tournament this weekend. :mrgreen: 8)

Hope to have some good news to report back come monday! [-o<

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And after all the fuss...6th place overall...out of 28 people...

Our good friend Giladis ended 10th.

And I am now going to sleep as I have to work tomorow and having just found out that my grandmother has died on saturday and my family decided not to tell me anything before I come back home since the tournament was in another country... :(

Good night and thanks for the good wishes.

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