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 Post subject: World cup list 2400
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:39 am 
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Im playing in a world cup tournament at my local games club its got 4 groups of 6 players, each player has to have a special character and follow normal force composition, so obviously you have to have all comers list that can do well in the 20 points system to get out of the group (2 players from each group go through) this list was written the day before the tournamant and has a 20-0 win and a 16-4 loss, and a game tomorow, what do you guys think? So far the sisters have been filthy (they're my new favorite unit) and the swordmasters of the world dragon made a demon players day a lot lot worse (we agreed to a rematch after the tourney were i dont take the uberbanner as it made the game to unbalanced in my favour really) i think thy alone locked in combat and killed 1200 points worth of demon.
On the badside the skycutter has newmodel syndrome really badly (got killed by demon magic without scoring a point! and mauled my demigryphs the next game) but its bolt thrower did kill a demi which means it fills a tasty anti qrmour niche which is something that i struggle with normally so theres hope for it.

Alarielle 350 350

Handmaiden 95
Reaver Bow 25 120

Lothern Sea Helm 100
Bsb 25
Banner of the World dragon 50 175

24 Sea guard 288
f/c 30 318

24 Sea guard 288
f/c 30 318

30 Swordmasters 390
f/c 30 420

20 Sisters of averlorn 280
High sister 10 290

Skycutter 95
Eagle eye bolt thrower 25 120

5 Dragon Princes 145
f/c 30 175

2 great eagles 100

2387

Theres pics of my next games setup on my blog (in the sig) and i have a plan ready to whoop some skaven ass!

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 Post subject: Re: World cup list 2400
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:50 am 
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Hmmm... The list breaks with many things (if not even all) what have been discussed here on Uthuan.net

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Handmaiden 95
Reaver Bow 25 120
I am missing the potion of strength...

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Lothern Sea Helm 100
Bsb 25
Banner of the World dragon 50 175
Fluffy ... But why See Helm? Why as BSB? And if BSB, why not protect him properly but give him the Banner?

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24 Sea guard 288
f/c 30 318

24 Sea guard 288
f/c 30 318
Proably not the stronges core choice, but I am sure you can play it (somehow)...

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30 Swordmasters 390
f/c 30 420
Huge! Why such a big unit? Why Swordmaster loosing attacks in second and third rank? Why not WLs? Why not 2x15?

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20 Sisters of averlorn 280
High sister 10 290
Again huge .. inparticular without musican ... did it pay off?

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 Post subject: Re: World cup list 2400
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:22 am 
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Tiny wrote:
Hmmm... The list breaks with many things (if not even all) what have been discussed here on Uthuan.net

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Handmaiden 95
Reaver Bow 25 120
I am missing the potion of strength...
Yeah baring in midf this list was written a few days after the book came out i'd not even had time to read the book, i hadn't realised this awesome combo at the time lol

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Lothern Sea Helm 100
Bsb 25
Banner of the World dragon 50 175
Fluffy ... But why See Helm? Why as BSB? And if BSB, why not protect him properly but give him the Banner?
Im pretty sure you can only give him light armour, and have they dropped the rule about not having magicbanners AND magic items?

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24 Sea guard 288
f/c 30 318

24 Sea guard 288
f/c 30 318
Proably not the stronges core choice, but I am sure you can play it (somehow)...
They meld well with the rest of the army chipping in shooting after regens been taken away and wounds caused by the sisters, also if a war of attrition starts with the big lawnmower of swordmasters then i can send them in to assist with ranks and bodys, basically this way instead of having archers who can only really assist the sisters or just spears who can help the sm the two units can both assist the elites

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30 Swordmasters 390
f/c 30 420
Huge! Why such a big unit? Why Swordmaster loosing attacks in second and third rank? Why not WLs? Why not 2x15?
This may have been a bit exesive but basically splitting them up would mean another lot ofpoints wasted on command and also less models being buffed by the banner, basically i wanted as many models with 2+ wardsaves from magic as possible.

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20 Sisters of averlorn 280
High sister 10 290
Again huge .. inparticular without musican ... did it pay off?

Well theres nothing i can do abuot no musician as they can't take one, but like the swormasters having them all in one unit allows me to get the mostof the quick to fire rule from the maiden, and yeah i they've been my best unit so far XD

Also with regardsto musicician the sg can swift reform in them situations and thanks to quick to fire they always get stand and shoot so will always have some fire to bring to a close range threat.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:36 am 
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Im pretty sure you can only give him light armour, and have they dropped the rule about not having magicbanners AND magic items?
No, and thats why you very very rarly see any BSB running with a magical banner...

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This may have been a bit exesive but basically splitting them up would mean another lot ofpoints wasted on command and also less models being buffed by the banner, basically i wanted as many models with 2+ wardsaves from magic as possible.
Ok! So I suppose you play them 7x4 + 2 (28 would be the natural number) ... But anyway ... If you want them to have the 2+ ward save as long as possible the unit should have the banner insteed of the See Helm, otherwise the See Helm is kill during first cc round (or through magic even earlier) and your whole unit looses the ward.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:45 am 
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Tiny wrote:
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Ok! So I suppose you play them 7x4 + 2 (28 would be the natural number) ... But anyway ... If you want them to have the 2+ ward save as long as possible the unit should have the banner insteed of the See Helm, otherwise the See Helm is kill during first cc round (or through magic even earlier) and your whole unit looses the ward.


Ha i dont think theres much chance of having the bsb magic sniped, but point taken about having him chopped up in combat (im suprised its not happened yet frankly) i think in future lists (locked lists for now until the tourneys over) i will probably do this as that makes sence to have armour on the bsb and the banner on the unit, thanks :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:46 pm 
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The game was going great until the skaven anihilated alarielles unit (sea guard bunker) after getting hit by a doomrocket on turn two 2 after being skitterleaped by thanquol killing many of them, then smegging dreaded thirteenth the turn after (which was only cast as thanquol re-rolls ones on warp tokens changing one dice from a 1 to a five) the roll was exactly 25 including the re-rolled dice, but as it was an 11 dice phase i hadn't the power to stop it.

So after that with no magic defence or threat he just tore through the rest of my army (bar the bsb and his unit), though i did kill 80 clanrats and 100 slaves throughout the game which isn't bad going. Also Thanquol was a jammy git! One inch more fleeing from my swordmasters and him the bsb and a unit of 50 slaves would be off the board and a couple inches less and the swordmasters would have caught them, the margin for error was so fine and he still got it then after that lucky escape he skitterleaped to safety! at least teh swordmasters still killed the bsb and them slaves.

Another game against skaven tonight O.o i know he has 2 hellpits, no more, please PLEASE!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:40 am 
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Thread revive time!

Played my last game lsst night against our bestest buds the dark elves!

He had 40 r-x-b men, 30 w-elves with crone hellebron cauldron of blood, 10 shades 2 assasins 13 spearmen, hydra, 2 units of harpies and a lvl2 sorceress

It was a good game and a good win i got 20 points from it, and am now through to the quarter finals, i knew this list would work :roll: seriously though i wrote it the day the tournament started and a day after buying the new book, so its lucky i knew the army quite well as its similar to what i'd run in the old book.

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