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#61 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

Thanks Tzineris! Here are some pics after the first layers (blue/grey, and grey) of white are done. It's encouraging how bright the Prince is starting to look, hopefully it will lead to great contrast between Prince and Dragon. I hope once the white is done you will all be able to see the ascot I've sculpted inside Turions gorget, I imagine him being noble but still haughtily stylish haha. I've also decided to leave the lance in the blue black form it's in, I don't know why but it looks great to me.

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#62 Post by tinman »

I have to say that its looking pretty damn good!! Looking forward to more...
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#63 Post by Jimmy »

Damn. Incredible work.
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#64 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

Thanks guys, nice to hear encouraging words from great painters and hobbyists like yourselves. Hopefully ill be done the white tomorrow and then it's on the detailing and freehand. Enjoying this model, almost sad it's ending if I wasn't so excited to see the end.
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#65 Post by Tzineris »

He will become really bright when you ll finish the white parts! However i believe that the lance needs a really thin extreme highlight( reaching pure white) to represent the lights reflection on it trough its lenght! will help to stand out! There is no need to change your blueblack color which is working so well with gold and white!! But even if you leave it as it is still will be beautiful! :D :mrgreen:
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#66 Post by NexS »

It's coming along very nicely, it's a great transformation from start to present! I particularly like the regal colours you have used, it would be interesting to see what colours you have used for your whole army and how they look together.
I also like the non-metallic armour and how it looks almost shaped bone.
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#67 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

So here is a sneak peak at what Prince and Dragon look like together with finished colors, I'll have to wait till tomorrow to get some daylight pics (the purple looks at lot bluer than it actually is, it's more plum) to show what it really looks like, but I couldn't resist! Enjoy

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#68 Post by RE.Lee »

Fantastic job - looks very striking =D>
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#69 Post by Tzineris »

Here comes the Knight with the shining armour!!! :D Very impressive work indeed, It gives you an idea of a High elven prince on a mighty star dragon has to look like! :mrgreen: I am noticing some white stains on the outside of the cloak that look like dust! Do i see correct? :?
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#70 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

Which part of the cloak were you noticing those stains on Tzineris? The saddle streamers or the princes cloak? And the purple side or white one?
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#71 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

Here are some pics of the free hand on Turions cloak and the saddle cloths, also I've added a rune and edge highlight to the trough of the lance, as per the suggestion by Tzineris. There are also runes worked into the scrollwork of the cloth, let me know what you guys think.

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#72 Post by solith »

Absolutely stunning! I think the freehand on the robes is just the right amount. It's small and subdued enough that it doesn't distract from the Prince himself but it's just the kind of small detail that turns a model from great to superb. =D>

Question: are you keeping the gems dark to be a contrast or are they simply the next section to be done?
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#73 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

Solith! Astute as always the gems are the last thing I do because I need to do a matte varnish when everything is done. After varnish, I will paint the gems and then gloss varnish them, and I have ambitious plans for the large one hanging from Turions neck. Anything missing from this model that I can't think of guys?
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#74 Post by NexS »

I really like the gold detail on the white cloth. Specifically, the fact that there is the purple underneath it - it really brings the colour scheme together subtly without taking focus from the gold.

I am curious though (I have to ask)... I've seen the blade of the lance change colours many times... Firstly, why the changes? Secondly, what colour are you going to paint it? :)
Looking forward to more work!!
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#75 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

I agree totally with both of you about the subtlety of the freehand, the focus of this model is tye NMM so it was better to compliment it than go for something that overpowers it. Over seen nice models that have masterpieces of freehand that actually detract from the overall model.

NexS great question, the Lance is supposed to be the star lance, so it was originally blue. Then I thought of keeping a limited palate and switched it to green as that is the spot color I'm using for the Caledorians. Then I thought that light blue is the actual color of starlight and that the blade is on the outer reaches of the model so it being blue will not be a big deal visually. I'm thinking about doing some object source lighting with it as a final flourish for the the Prince.
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#76 Post by NexS »

I figured it would be the star lance, even just for fluff purposes, which is why I was so interested in your thoughts on the blade.
I have two thoughts on the lance was if I were to do it.
Either; 1. a shooting star is a meteor/gas/ice type of thing so I would be inclined to do something a very dark blue/black or, 2. something magical looking still sticking with the metero/ice/gas theme and making it glow blue from inside.
The second idea would be very difficult to execute though....
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#77 Post by Tzineris »

I was talking for the purple side of the cloak, but now with the new pics i see that the stains are highlighting :mrgreen:In my opinion it would be better to paint highlights only at the higher parts of the cloth and not in the lower ones, to me the current techinique gives me the impression of a dusty cloak! Really nice work overall though, beautiful and clean freehands! I also have a suggestion to make,paint more white on the center of the blade of the star lance to make it glow more! OSL will work too! I am also waiting to see the gems! Green, orange,white/light grey in my opinion will be nice choices! :mrgreen: Keep up!
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#78 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

Here are some pics after a re paint of the cloak, thanks to Tzineris for the good eye, catching some false highlights. Really feeling great about this model, as the leader and centerpiece of my army.

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#79 Post by Sarcon »

Have you ever tried wet blending your layers on your cloaks? It makes them look an lot more natural and organic. Your cloak is very well painted, but the extreme highlights look a bit odd to me.
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#80 Post by Tzineris »

Much much better! =D> Now it gives the impresion of a silken cloak! Go give some thunderstomps allready! :mrgreen:
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#81 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

@Sarcon - I haven't tried wet blending, I heard it's very time consuming, and I also really liked the style that Solith and Divinor have produced in their logs. Thats where I took the ideas from as I like my minis to still have a graphic cartoon edge to them. Do you wet blend personally? I will have to check out your painting log to see it in action!

@ Tzineris - Silken cloak is what i was going for so thanks for providing some very useful critiques that helped me achieve it, this is exactly what I was looking for when I started this log. Different perspectives give such wealthy feedback and although I might not always use the ideas, it is great to understand what it looks like to others.

I have already used the pair in game and they have stomped some face. I can't wait to see what they are capable of, after I get the full painting bonus from the dice gods hahaha
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#82 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

So here is the finished prince after gems and Starlance. So the question I have for you guys is does the model pop like this or should I attempt the Object Source Lighting from the blade? Also do you like the glowing rune gem that hangs form Turions neck?

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#83 Post by NexS »

Fantasic! I think you've done a great job with the blade. It looks cold, even frozen - exactly the way I'd imagined it!

As for the gems, I like the one around his neck, and I think adding the rune was a nice touch. I also think the colours are the correct contrast to make it as realistic as possible, but I've always been a bit partial to making the "personal" gems a different colour to the ones on armour/weapons. It's almost like the ones they have for their own reasons are different to the ones they would get with their gear from the armoury.

Another thing i've just noticed is that the darker colour around the dragon on the shield looks like a bubble or a thick shadow, and i'd conside getting a bit closer to the dragon with the white!

All in all, a fantastic looking centrepiece!
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#84 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

Thanks NexS! You're right about there being a large buffer between the white and the dragon on the shield. There is another layer of grey between the white and the blueish grey but it doesn't show up in pictures, maybe I'll just do away with it and come a little closer with the white.
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#85 Post by NexS »

I just zoomed in on the pic and I can see what you mean! Was it done that way to make it look as if thedragon design was glowing (ie: enchanted/charmed shield)?
If so, I would recommend doing it either a different colour, or a slightly brighter, more saturated blurple (blueish purple lol)
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#86 Post by Turion Rilyaloce »

Here are some pics of the finished model as a whole, hope you guys like it!

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#87 Post by Ferny »

I don't know if I've commented on this thread yet, but even if I have it bears saying again - your painting here is absolutely stunning! =D>
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#88 Post by NexS »

Looks really good, mate! The blade of the lance really stands out against the whole model, and I like the contrast between of the colours of the blade, the dragon/rider and the base.
Job well done!
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#89 Post by solith »

All the time and effort you've put into this one model have more than paid off, it's truly amazing. =D> I really like how well the colours you chose go together - especially the bright gold of the Prince's armour and the more 'natural' gold of the dragon, bravo!
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#90 Post by Tzineris »

A trully stanning presence on the table! I like the lances blade as it is! No osl needed! (the dice gods will favor you)! :D :mrgreen:
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