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#121 Post by Dorian »

The reavers look great! Such action!

Will the rank up with the horses to the front? It seems like a set of models that look amazing but will look odd once in combat :)
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#122 Post by RE.Lee »

Great conversion! The model is very elegant and I think your modifications haven't changed that. The sword hanging from the back looks very natural (thats not always the case I find - awkward physics apply to a lot of converted miniatures) and the flame is a nice touch. Can't wait to see the project progress!
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#123 Post by solith »

@Dorian
Thank you!
Yeah the horses face the front, the riders face the back. It is a bit strange when they get into combat, but I don't expect them to remain in combat for long most of the time so I'm not bothered by that.

@RE.Lee
Thank you!
Yeah the model was just made for the sword to go there. At first I thought I'd have to carve away at the original quiver and cloak so that I could then fit the sword in and then repair all the damage I did. However the designer(s) were nice to me and made the quiver a separate part. I actually had to fill in the cloak before attaching the sword in order to give the sword something to be glued to.
While it looks awesome like this I think it would be a pain to actually draw the sword. It's a bit long and a bit too high up for it to be easy. I think her best bet would be to take the entire scabbard off her back in order to draw it.


So, after the Loremaster spent a night suspended upside-down - no, it's not a form of torture, it's so that gravity didn't bend the green-stuff out of shape while it was curing - I have some flames done.
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I was done sculpting those remarkably quickly, and now I've realised why. It's far far too regular and uniform. This is a swirling pillar of fire that has the same diameter from top to bottom. I'll need to go back over it, remove some bits and bulk out others to make it look less regular and more like actual fire. I think it'll very slightly help to show that the Loremaster is controlling this unpredictable, primal force of destruction and not just some pretty swirling light. :lol:

Does anyone have any input/suggestions on anything I should add or change or even take away from the model?
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#124 Post by Elithmar »

Wow, that loremistress is amazing! I wish I'd thought of that conversion. Although, I do like my own loremaster too. ;)

I was thinking the fire didn't look quite right - your idea might work. We'll just have to wait and see. I like the fluff too. :)
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#125 Post by solith »

Thank you!
Your Loremaster is a jedi, I don't know what you're complaining about. He's awesome. :D

GW's fire tends to be a lot smoother, so I might take a hint from them and make this somewhat smoother overall. That'll make it easier to paint as well, but it feels weird sculpting large, smooth flames.

Thanks for the comment on the fluff. I'm sure that my image of what's going on is different to what I wrote, but to fix it I'd have had to sit on it for a day or two and go back and edit it and that would have meant delaying showing my Loremaster. :lol:
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#126 Post by tessenjutsu »

Wow! All of your conversions are so inspiring and amazing! You truly have a one-of-a-kind army! Kudos!!! :D
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#127 Post by solith »

Thank you!


I'm considering giving my Loremistress a tattoo along one arm. I'm worried it might make the model too cluttered so I'll decide one way or another once the rest is close to completion. Is this a cool idea or a crazy idea?

Instead of doing something nice like painting or working on my Secret Santa, I spent the evening creating my first ever battle report!
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#128 Post by tessenjutsu »

I wouldn't question your instincts or taste. It's apparent that whatever you decide will be genius! :D I mean, just look at all the amazing models you've already created! :)

As for that battle report: that sure looks like it took a long time to put together, but it looks great and was very fun to read! Keep us updated on your next battle! I'd love to see actual pictures of your army in action though than the ones that the program you used puts out. Beautiful models and conversions like yours beg be displayed! :D
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#129 Post by RE.Lee »

A tattoo is a great idea, though it might be pretty hard to do well. Looking forward to seeing it done :)
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#130 Post by solith »

@tessenjutsu
Thank you!
Unfortunately I lack a phone I'd be willing to take pictures with and I don't really want to take an actual camera around so actual pictures probably won't happen. But thank you for the encouragement. :D

@RE.Lee
Thanks!
I know the basic theory of painting tattoos: mix the tattoo colour 50:50 with the skin colour - at least to start with. It'll tone down the tattoo colour and make it look less like paint. The question is: will a Warhammer model, already full of details, really benefit from getting tribal tattoos down one arm that are deliberately copied from an anime character? :lol:

The answer is yes in all probability. :D


Painting's on a bit of a back-burner atm, I'm working on modelling my secret santa and I'd like to put together some of the dudes I still have on their sprues so I can have more choice in my army at 1500 points. At the moment my choices consist of little more than which characters I'd like to use today. My collection is still too small!
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#131 Post by solith »

Five more Reavers build and awaiting paint.

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No crazy conversions this time. Standard Glade Riders except for Shadow Warrior quivers and Glade Guard hooded heads and trumpet.

I'll probably get a WiP pic of my Loremistress at some point over the weekend.
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#132 Post by solith »

Normally I kind of like spiders, but not so much when I find one living in the lamp that's right above my hobby area... :lol:
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#133 Post by RE.Lee »

Great conversion as usual - funny trumpet (?) on the musician.

Shame about the spider, now you must BURN your hobby area, I'm afraid, it might have laid eggs... :P
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#134 Post by solith »

"Nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure." :lol:

Nah, it's fine, no burning necessary.

WiP pics of my Loremistress. The colours are showing up strangely in these pictures, especially on the cloak. However as the cloak isn't finished you can ignore it anyway. The colours are pretty much right on the metals and skin, which are finished. (Except for tattoos that is, but that'll be the very last thing I paint)

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The cloak needs much more highlighting and smoothing out. At the moment it's sort of done up to the mid-tone so it'll end up much lighter overall. The magic fire thingy will be painted in fire colours (which is going to be a pain to do) and the hair... I'm not sure. Blonde or redhead? I was originally going to do blonde but now I'm less sure. At the rate I'm going every character I have (with visible hair) will end up blonde and I'd like a bit of variety. For the Loremistress however the main concern is which colour will go best with the fire colours? I think the right answer would be to go for a lighter brown colour rather than blonde or red/ginger purely so that it's less distracting. On the other hand, if she had hair in natural versions of fire colours it could provide a neat comparison. Any suggestions?
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#135 Post by RE.Lee »

I'd go with a pale blonde, I guess. She's looking ace - love the palette: burnished gold on the armour, teal on the cloak (what was the recipe for this?). Very balanced and easy on the eye =D>
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#136 Post by solith »

Thank you!

Hmm, I think you might be right if I go for a pale blonde. That'll stop it from being too yellow and clashing with the fire.

The teal is actually the same green as the rest of my army (Kalabite Green -> Sybarite Green -> white) but for some reason these pictures distorted the colour. I think the problem was the lighting - I normally use a light-box at night but those were taken with a light-box at day so there was different background light around.
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#137 Post by solith »

Aaah fire, my nemesis. We meet again.

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The picture has been edited to Naggaroth and back again to make the fire look pretty much as it does IRL, so you can ignore the rest of the picture.

I'd appreciate some input; should the entire thing be darker? does it jump from light to dark too quickly? should the red bits be darker? should the yellow bits be lighter? should the entire thing be repainted in pink?
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#138 Post by Aicanor »

Yes, yes, repaint it pink please!
But if you don't, the the deepest recesses of the fire should be lighter and you can paint the places where last highlights should go red and even up to black (but that is not neccessary, depends on what effect you want to achieve here). I agree on light blond for the hair with perhaps a tinge of orange in highlights to tie it up with the fire... I like her by the way. ;-)
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#139 Post by RE.Lee »

I agree the flame looks a bit flat, some brownish reds on top might do the trick perhaps? Repainting pink is always an option, too :)
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#140 Post by solith »

@Aicanor
So your suggestion is to either paint it pink or to add more white and more red... which would make it more pink! :lol:
I think you're right though, the dark bits especially need a bit more to them. And thank you!

@RE.Lee
Good idea, that'll make the flame look a tiny bit more 'dirty' imo - less "pwetty magic" and more "melt your face off". :lol:


I'm now slightly tempted to paint her hair pink. I wont. It would look horrible - pink hair next to 'orange' fire? urgh. But still, it would be funny. :D
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#141 Post by Galharen »

I would love to see her as redhead :)
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#142 Post by solith »

I agree, I do need more redheads, but not when the red hair is right next to flames I think. :lol: Perhaps when I finally finish my Alarielle model she'll be a redhead.

More pictures of the same model. Again I must apologise that the colours are all slightly off.
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Except for this tattoo (which I'm now having second thoughts about) she's pretty much done.

However, as I'm not quite finished I still have the opportunity to change anything if it's needed but overall I'm happy with how she's turned out.
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#143 Post by solith »

So after doing some research I found that the original author of the manga this tattoo is *ahem* borrowed from isn't consistent about the tattoo. Which was annoying for all of two seconds until I realised that meant I had somewhat free reign to do it.

Anyhow, it's somewhat simple but pretty cool. It also gives my Loremistress yet another level of badassery. :D
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This also means that she's done, except for adding grass/leaves to the base and varnishing, but that'll be the same as the rest of my army so I won't be posting more redundant pictures of that. Onto the next task!

Oh, and bonus points to anyone who can name the manga/anime character my Loremistress's tattoo comes from. :lol:
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#144 Post by Galharen »

My only manga/anime experience was Dragon Ball :lol: :lol:

I really like your model, tattoo really adds her some badassery :mrgreen: wild girl flirting with fire, hot :wink:
But the blonde hair are missing some shading in my opinion, just a litte wash would make it better I think :)
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#145 Post by RE.Lee »

She's looking great, the tattoo is a very nice touch (no idea on the origin though) to such a fine paintjob :)
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#146 Post by solith »

@Galharen
Thank you!
I think it's the pose that makes her badass mainly - the pose with her eyes staring. :D
I think you're right, I'll wash/glaze in some red into the shadows of the hair. I did that briefly in earlier stages of painting the hair but the effect has completely vanished by now so I should put it back in.

@RE.Lee
Thank you!
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#147 Post by solith »

I picked up some Phoenix Guard, and as cool as they are I'm not certain which heads I should use.

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The Shadow Warrior heads make them look very sinister and really reinforce the whole vow of silence thing, however I have only 10 of those heads and 20 bodies to put them on. I also should be able to scrounge up 20 of the hooded Glade Guard heads which other people have done and does look awesome.

At the moment I'm thinking to do half with the Shadow Warrior heads and half with Glade Guard heads, but does anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
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#148 Post by Tzineris »

Hello there! I would go for the glade guard or the original heads, because the shadow warior's head, even though it looks sinister and dark elfy, it looks a bit small compared to the body imo. Anyhow if you decide to work that idea here you can be suplied with more heads!http://hoardobits.com/cgi/hob/shop.pl?c ... cat3=-High Elves&cat4=&page=&view=06052013-2-39

Also hand maiden looks really agressive and confident with that fire line which will shape a fire ball soon enough to feed the enemy with it! And the tatoo..i dont know it looks a bit one peicy maybe..also it reminds me Kamina from Guren Lagan. :?

P.S. I love the reavers! I will make my glade riders like this!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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#149 Post by solith »

Thank you!
Good thoughts on the Phoenix Guard heads, I'll have to cinsider that.


For the record, the tattoo is from Revy from Black Lagoon. :D
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#150 Post by solith »

I feel like my painting has been even slower of late than normal. Between working on my secret santa and building all of these Phoenix Guard I've been distracted by all of the new shiny things lying around. :D

Speaking of my Phoenix Guard though, I couldn't simply build them all right out of the box. I present my argument as to why Phoenix Guard should in fact be armed with additional hand weapons. (As bad as that would be game wise)
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I also decided to use the original Phoenix Guard heads after realising that the cool Shadow Warrior helmets wouldn't look so good on the relatively bright Phoenix Guard - between the (probably) green cloaks and the (probably) yellow/red fire these guys will likely end up more eye catching than much of my army.

The new Shadowblade model is so over the top awesome I'm looking for excuses to convert one into a High Elf. Unfortunately I already have most of the infantry characters I'll want for a while. My choices seem to be either to take off his armour and stick a staff in his right hand to make him a kung-fu-mage or to make him a dragon lord, leaping from the back of his dragon to stab someone in the face. In any case that's likely just idle wishing. :lol:
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