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#91 Post by Doombreeze »

for me it's like this:

Caledor (pics coming soon :D)
Primary: deep green (dragons are mostly green :D)
Secondary: cream (cloth) and gold (armour decoration)
Gem: dark red (ruby)

Charce:
Primary: red or green (I think both are good)
Secondary: white, brass armour (well... they need to hide in the
forests)
Gem: white (diamond)

Saphery:
Primary: royal blue (magical colour :))
Secondary: white
Gem: white, no heart-shaped ones (diamond)

Ellyrion:
Primary: light brown (colour like ummm... grass in winter???)
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Secondary: white; grey and white horses, dark gold armour
Gem: chocolate brown (but glossy)

Avelorn:
Primary: dark green
Secondary: light green
Gem: red, heart-shaped

Eataine:
Primary: dark red (sea dragon and Finubar's colour)
Secondary: cream; golden armour
Gem: green (it looks good with red and cream)

Tiranoc:
Primary: purple (the shade of a former glory of Tiranoc)
Secondary: white; grey and white horses, dark gold armour
Gem: white (diamond)

Shadowlands:
Primary: medium grey (I think glazed with Asurmen Blue will look
good)
Secondary: dark bluish colour :roll: ...like explained in 6th ed HE
book
Gem: black (obsidian)

Cothique
Primary: sea green (one of the best elvish sailors com from there)
Secondary: white
Gem: hmmm...pearl-like :roll: (pearls can be found in the sea. Quite
obvious :D )

Yvresse:
Primary: muted blues (Yvresse is a land of mists)
Secondary: light grey
Gem: turquoise
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#92 Post by Si'anelle of Avelorn »

I like your colours summary Doombreeze. Matching colours to the colours found in the realms' environment is completely logical and also very Elf-like.
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#93 Post by Doombreeze »

Thanks! I wanted to create more natural look than normally seen on HE
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#94 Post by Dannaron »

Yvresse:
Primary: muted blues (Yvresse is a land of mists)
Secondary: light grey
Gem: turquoise
Thankyou! That sounds much more like my idea of Yvresse.

I was planning on starting an Yvresse army, you see, and that was what sprang to my mind as well. Definitely not yellow.

That said, someone on these very boards did a few Sapherian models in bright yellow and it looked fantastic. Nice break from the mould.
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#95 Post by Doombreeze »

Definitely not yellow.
yes, definitely not yellow :mrgreen:
and saphery models done in blue/yellow scheme are good, but blue/white is more to my personal liking. that's why i said blue/white (blue/yellow can be an alternative too I think, just my opinion)
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#96 Post by tomwhar »

Yvresse was seiged by the goblins under the command of Grom the Paunch of the Misty Mountains. They should be a dark reflecting colour like purple or red.
Chrace is famous for it's white lions and should be painted in a creamy colour.
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#97 Post by saintjon »

My army is a work in progress, I started it when I had zero abilities and used blue and white for my initial purposes. Now I use the classic blue and white for all my "regulars" like archers, spearelves, seaguard, bolt thrower crews and for my elites I try to use white as a unifying element and bring in different colours, to highlight their "eliteness". Mostly I don't do this with a region in mind but my chracian elements tend to have a lot of white, dark angels green and gold highlights, since white lion and lion chariot are both pretty elite. My White Lions have DAG tunics, white trim around their armour, white pelts (duh), DAG plumes, lots of gold trim and dark brown trousers and axe handles. I wanted them to look elite and reflect the woodsman nature of their background. If I were doing my regulars as chracians I would do like a reverse palette, and have the white tunics with DAG trim and stuff. The Eavy Metal white lions are just too white for my taste lol. If anything making everything including the pelts white just drowns out the distinctive pelts which are supposed to be their trademark.

My shadow warriors are like the only unit i have that doesn't have white anywhere on them. They also are mostly undercoated black unlike everything else I have and have almost no highlighting done to them after washing. To me they are outcasts, I love them but its says the other elves don't trust them much. A shadow warrrior with his elf lifespan (and hatred rules) would probably be in the wilderness fighting for hundreds of years and my shadow warriors definitely look the part. As far as white being the "death colour" I think shadow warriors are more concerned with effective camouflage than making fashion statements.
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#98 Post by Angel »

My army is from the borderlands between Yvresse and Cothique, and I've painted them white and grey. Grey fits Yvresse very well in my opinion since Yvresse is known as the land of mists.

The rest of the provinces' colours are in my opinion:

Etaine - Imperial Purple
Caledor - Red
Tiranoc - No idea, perhaps orange or a strong green
Ellyrion - Soft green
Averlorn - Brown
Nagarythe - Black
Chrace - White
Cothique - Bluegreen sea colour
Yvresse - Grey
Saphery - Blue
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#99 Post by Dragon.Prince63 »

I like the idea of Caledor having a metallic bright red on the main armour representing a dragon's fire as a base colour for the army. This could also work with green for Averlorn eg. metallic green dragon princes! :P
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#100 Post by Aderyn »

I'd say shadowlands (nagarythe) is purple - dont you guys agree? :O
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#101 Post by Baalan »

as far as Nagarythe goes, i could never understand why would anyone think of purple. if you think about their prefered tactics and the landscape they normally operate, such colour is a bit out of place. besides, purple was always (in the real world) one of the hardest colours to produce. therefore a society bred for war and living in harsh conditions would go for more practical and easy to make colours...

variations of black and grey, certainly few gems and other such things that the rest of the Asur value so much...

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#102 Post by Luna Guardian »

I'd say:


Primary: Dark red or dark blue (dragons are actually usually red or blue in Ulthuan, actually :wink: )
Secondary: cream (cloth) and gold (armour decoration)
Gem: dark red (ruby)

Primary: Dark green or brown
Secondary: white, brass armour
Gem: white (diamond) I hadn't even considered white gems! Do you have an idea how to paint them?

Saphery:
Primary: royal blue or white
Secondary: white or royal blue (mirror colours)
Gem: Blue (sapphire) or red (ruby)

Ellyrion:
Primary: light brown
Secondary: white; grey and white horses, no ornate colours such as gold or rich hues of red
Gem: white or green

Avelorn:
Primary: green
Secondary: white
Gem: red, heart-shaped

Eataine:
Primary: red or blue
Secondary: cream; golden armour
Gem: green or red

Tiranoc:
Primary: purple (as good as any)
Secondary: white; grey and white horses, dark gold armour
Gem: white (diamond)

Shadowlands:
Primary: Black
Secondary: Dark blue or grey
Gem: Dark red

Cothique
Primary: sea green (one of the best elvish sailors com from there)
Secondary: white
Gem: This is a tough one. Red looks good always.

Yvresse:
Primary: muted blues (Yvresse is a land of mists)
Secondary: light grey
Gem: turquoise
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#103 Post by Baragash »

This is the pic from the older HE book if anyone's interested:
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#104 Post by Aderyn »

had a feeling shadowlands was purple ;)
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#105 Post by Asurion Whitestar »

I've posted this in my own thread, but sharing is caring, right? :mrgreen:

These are literally from the 5th ed book.
I'll list them in order from the book, so I dont miss any...

The Shadowlands (the once great Nagarythe)
They favour dark tinted armour and tunics, and plumes decorated with dark colours, esp blues & sombre greys.

Avelorn
(Those who dwell here specialise in Archery, it is said that some of the Wood Elf kindreds of Athel Loren in the old world are descended from the people of Avelorn)
most renowned regiment is the Everqueen's warrior guard of Elf Maids.
most likely to wear green plumes or embroidered decoration with floral designs, armour may sometimes be styled in floral or leaf shapes.

Cothique
(as they spend half of thier time either guarding the coastline or at sea, Noted that they are all skilled seafarers)
Encounteres with sea monsters are a regular part of a warrior's life and they often wear cloaks made from hides of these sea creatures or armour styled in the fashion of sea serpent heads, armour is often tinted with shades of blue or green.

Yvresse
The favoured weapon is the Spear, and the warriors fight shoulder to shoulder with an almost unshakable dicipline.

Chrace
(they are All renowned as skilled hunters)
They often wear furs and animal pelts over their armour as cloaks or decorative collars, the most famous of these is the White Lions.

Caledor
(Dragon Taming is a warrior tradition)
Armour is often tinted green or sometimes red, and its design is intended to reflect the scales and horny spines of dragons, they favour hot and firery colours for their plumes and decorative motifs, and they are the only elves to commonly use Black for plumes and crests.

Ellyrion
(All are taught the arts of horseback warfare, from a very young age)
They use spear and bow, and have elegant, flowing Plumed helmets.

Eataine
(Greatest kingdom, All its warriors are skilled with the spear or bow, and always have the finest armour and weapons, best warriors are Seaguard)

Tiranoc
(Ancient traditions of Charioteers "before half the kingdom was sunk with nagarythe", still carried on today)

Saphery
(the nobility of the land study the arts of magic, many choose to fight in battle as wizards. Elves come from all over Ultuan to hope to be accepted into the order of Swordmasters, and taught by the Loremasters in the most ancient and arcane of martial arts.)

(This is more model wise, but hay... :D )
To Recap:
Most are already set, but- IMO (for models, paint schemes/techniques, etc..)-
Cothique, sound like Dark Elf Corsairs, minus the evil.
Avelorn, sounds like Wood Elf Archers, and kindred Allies.
Shadowlands, Shadow Warriors painted like Dark Elves, Armour-wise anyway.
Chrace, opens up new possibilities to paint the White Lion's cloaks with spots or stripes, etc..
Eataine, golden armour for seaguard etc.., (yay bring it back )
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#106 Post by Siegfried VII »

Luna Guardian wrote:Primary: Dark green or brown
Secondary: white, brass armour
Gem: white (diamond) I hadn't even considered white gems! Do you have an idea how to paint them?

I haven't tried it yet, but I think that it may look like this (I'm not home so I used the primitive drawing program windows have by default, so it's not that great).

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#107 Post by Si'anelle of Avelorn »

For Avelorn I did always choose green and bronze and white.

An example:
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For Nagarythe my choice was dark blue, red and white.
An example:
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#108 Post by Aellan »

Well, I wont do a per region comment, but just would like to share some insight I´ll try to use on my army colors after reading some of the Time of Legends elven novels. Even on Nagarythe, white is not set apart, but it really is not as preeminent as on other nations. Black is really common, but purple didn´t seem to be so until they became more Dark Elvish (So I think feel Shadow warriors would favor purple). Several descriptions of High Elf Nagarythe I read included White base clothes (Shirt, pants, etc), but Black Cloaks, Black Armor and such (I Think I´ll be painting my Shadow Warrior armors a really dark metal, maybe Boltgun washed over with badab black).
As for my army base color, I´ll take it from the description of Indraugnir on the Aenarion audio book. It said there, if I´m not mistaken, that he had silver scales with dark blue skin. On fantasy settings I always favoured the mettalic dragons and I know most of the dragon models have colored, non mettalic scales. I´lll try and make my dragon armies like this description, with deep blue skin (Lighter on some areas to show its frailty, like the belly, probably), and also try to work on it darkening with ages (I´ll model a sun and a Star Dragon from my tow dragon models, one will be a darker mettalic colour to scales with more radical highlights to show that it can still shine and then a way darker blue skin, while the sun dragon would be really bright silver scales with light blue.).
As my army will come form Caledor, I think it would make sense to base my core troop colours to the color of the dragons my house is allied with, so I´ll try to use metallics, the common white for clothes, dark blue and light blue and also black. I´ll also use some special colors for my elite regiments, as I want to make each of them unique, with a fluff behind them linked to the noble house of the army leaders (Like, my Swordmaster regiment will be a special force answering to the call of one of the house' princes that is an important and accomplished archmage back on Saphery, called the Grey Guard. They are specially sponsored by the house and often work as bodyguards to said Archmage on his travels, also answering to the house calls in times of war (I think even maintaining a small garrison on Caledorian lands).
I pretend to field plenty of Dragon Princes (Using the Dragon Colors described). Ellyrian, Phoenix Guard and White Lions will follow suit, but being closer to the regional colors people describe here (And I must say this is a pretty helpful topic for choosing colors).
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#109 Post by jwg20 »

My army is charce-based. Unlike the white cloaks, or the white/brown/greens suggested for woodsmen that people tend to recommend here, I use fluff to rationalize why my army goes against traditional colors.

My elves wear red cloaks with white trim. The story behind the red cloaks is that my prince is simple: When my prince was trying to get his way into the nobility of charce, he, like all Charcian warriors, must kill a white lion. He stalked out a huge lion to kill. The fight with the lion left his cloak covered with both his and the lion's blood. After many attempts to stain the cloak white again, nothing worked. The prince, however, refused to wear any other cloak to battle. His army, in honor of his great, bloody, victory dyed their own cloaks red to match their general.

I do keep a good brown/dark/dirty theme of the army in accordance with their woodsman background. When painting, I spray black and then airbrush the entire model scorched brown. I then work each color up from brown, keeping brown in the recesses (makes it look like the cloaks are overly dirty, and red shines through when in light but look like a much deeper brown-red when in shadow). I also use bronze armor (dwarf bronze) and brown wash to fill the recesses of the armor. For my elites, I highlight the armor another layer with 50-50 dwarf bronze-mithril silver to make their armor a bit brighter.

Works for me and gives me an excuse to have red cloaks, which contrasts really well with the white/bleached bone color of the lions and lion cloaks that fill a lot of my army!
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#110 Post by Oberon »

The colors work as I read them, but since the world of warhammer is based upon a historical time period that ranges from 1000 ad to 1500 ad; I imagine that all the nations operate under some standard of feudal society, some, like the HE's live in a comparable utopian style system of fealty.

There are so many smaller regions within the greater realm of Ulthuan that must be the bannermen of greater kingdoms like: Chrace, Eataine or Yvresse. This allows you an almost unlimited palette of colors to work from; even if your HE's are from a greater kingdom, like Chrace. They would wear the colors of the lord they owe fealty to into battle and then mark their greater homage to one of the Princes by using certain heraldric cues.

I use the 'Shifting Isles' as the home region for my Seaguard list. Obviously this region would makes its wealth through trade, wool and fishing. This would generate a healthy population of sailors. I think the Isles would owe their fealty to Tor Yvresse and Eltharion would entrust them with the security of the trade lanes and first defense of Yvresse since the disastrous invasion of Grom. Eltharion entrusted Prince Oberon to oversee the repopulation and development of the Isles after the invasion of Yvresse and as a reward for valor during the battles. Flash forward a century or two and the Isles are wealthy from trade and mercantilism.

All this aside, their colors are green, orange and white. On the banner is going to be the heraldric cue to Tor Yvresse in the form of a black heart with a sword stabbed into the middle (represents the eternal melancholy and grudge of Eltharion).
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#111 Post by Feuermann »

I made this scheme in photoshop:
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Don't know where to pace my army, in ulthuan or in colonies like Tor Elithis or another one
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#112 Post by Elessehta of Yvresse »

The heavy use of yellow suggests Ellyrion, but you can make up your own colony somewhere in the world, Araby has a lot of desert, so the yellow would blend in nicely.
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#113 Post by Code13 »

Having only recently picked up High Elves in the shape of some IoB stuff I started painting them in blue and white (though more blue than anything). Since I started painting I settled on Yvresse for their realm and sea elves for their theme (no chariots for starters). Fortunately the figures I had painted were all from named places - Lothern Sea Guard, Phoenix Guards, Ellyrion Reavers and so the blue and white perhaps marks them as troops not from Yvresse.

My archers and spearmen are in light and dark grey to mark them as Yvressians though and while it is quite a muted looking force, it would be superbly camoflaged in the rocky sea cliffs and mists of that realm.
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#114 Post by Elessehta of Yvresse »

Code13, you know you can name these units anything you want in you fluff right. Fluff is all that's important ^_^
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#115 Post by Flaxis »

All,

I guess this thread is now obsolete, as the new hearldry book provides this information, it is good to see how close some people were to what GW decided the colour themes are in the end.

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