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2500 vs the Chaotic Daemons.... ugh

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:42 pm
by Abhorash.
Well here goes:

Archmage. level 4, High Magic, Lormasters cloak, Seer staff, Scroll. - 350
Mage. lvl2. High Magic. Annulian Crystal, Jewel of dusk - 185
Mage. lvl2. High magic. Silver Wand, Ring of Fury. - 185
Noble BSB. Battle Banner (with phoenix guard), Barded Steed - 190

10 Archers - 110

21 White Lions. - 360
Standard of Balance

23 Phoenix Guard. Champ. - 352
Sorcery Banner.

14 Swordmasters. - 146
Lion Banner, champ, ToL.

6 Dragon Princes. (x2) - 420
(one with Warbanner and one a banner.)

3 Repeater bolt throwers. - 300
1 great eagle. - 50

Re: 2500 vs the Chaotic Daemons.... ugh

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:07 am
by Arcsheild
Wow, that's an awesome list. Not sure exactly how it'll do, I always find daemons really really hard to play against with such few units, but I love the units in it! Good luck!

Re: 2500 vs the Chaotic Daemons.... ugh

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:38 am
by Griffon Prince
I would honestly put the BoS on the Phoenix Guard.
The SMs need some fear protection, take standard of balance just in case he has some Bloodletters.
I know you have the Loec Noble to take out the Nurgle Herald but your army would benefit from having a few more troops. I'd drop him to change an archer unit into either spears or LSG.

Goodluck on the field of battle.

Re: 2500 vs the Chaotic Daemons.... ugh

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:23 am
by CrazyCarl
LSG might be a good choice. They're alright vs a Greater Daemon and provide nice static res against other stuff. Just be careful to keep your Eagle away from his Flamers or it'll go pop.

Re: 2500 vs the Chaotic Daemons.... ugh

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:12 am
by SpellArcher
I agree with Griffon Prince that you need to drop a Noble. I'd go with just a BSB on horse (for the 2+ save) with Battle Banner. I'd also put a scroll on the Archmage.

I think the Spears could really do with the Lion Standard against Daemons. I'd put a champion with Loec on the Swordmasters.

I know you've built to take on Plaguebearers but I'm not sure about this. Wouldn't you be better off avoiding them (M4) and taking out his other stuff first? I'd be tempted to drop the PG to 20 and put the BSB in the Spears, who need his combat res more IMHO.

Re: 2500 vs the Chaotic Daemons.... ugh

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:15 pm
by dabber
You mention Plaguebearers, but don't mention the rest of his army. What else is he fielding?

In general, I agree with SpellArcher that planning to engage Plaguebearers is a terrible idea. I certainly would not consider it without White Sword and Talisman of Loec to drop the herald. Avoid them and cook them with magic.

Re: 2500 vs the Chaotic Daemons.... ugh

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:01 pm
by Abhorash.
He loves magic, nurgle stuff, flamers, and screamers.

Re: 2500 vs the Chaotic Daemons.... ugh

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:56 am
by PGP
You could drop the banners from DP and fit them to infantry. Sorcery banner for PG and lion banner for spears, 6th DP for both units is a better idea. You have too many standards anyhow. Third mage with scrolls or jewel is a better idea than SL-noble. PG are also too large, 20 should be enough. I could take also shadow warriors to increase march blocking. Against nurgle, fire magic is a nice idea, but take one mage with high magic for drain magic spell. Spears could be replaced with archers and lions. (lions take balance, SM the lion banner).

Re: 2500 vs the Chaotic Daemons.... ugh

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:05 am
by Flame of the Asuryan
At least give your BSB'er a great weapon.