heres my list i was going to use in a tourny but i ended up going away for the weekend
archmage
lvl 4
talisman of saphery
jewel of the dusk
folariaths robes
335
noble
dragon armour
the white sword
enchanted shield
141
dragon mage
lvl 2
guardian pheonix
gem of sunfire
435
15 spearelves
full command
lion standard
185
10 archers
110
19 pheonix guard
full command
banner of sorcery
365
9 swordmasters
full command
standard of balance
210
lion chariot
140
2x RBT
200
2xeagle
100
the archmage goes with the pheonix guard and the noble with the swordies.
the pheonix guard and the swordies would support each other and the lion chariot would support the spears.
the archers would stay with the bolt throwers.
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Re: 2250 army list
Looks pretty sound, here are the tweaks I'd do.
Firstly the magic, offensively this is great. Defensively you have five dispel dice. I think you have enough power dice without the Jewel on the Archmage so I'd drop this for a dispel scroll. You never know when you'll be Gatewayed. The Gem of Sunfire looks good and is nice and fluffy but most people take the Silver Wand to get another spell and make maximum use of the Reckless ability. I'd also consider swapping the Guardian Phoenix for the Golden Crown.
There's a strong tactical argument for swapping the Enchanted Shield for the Talisman of Loec. I wouldn't do it myself but it can be very effective.
The Phoenix Guard and Archers look great. The Spears are a bit under-strength though. I'd bump them up to 20 somehow. Either that or drop to 10, possibly of archers or LSG instead. The Swordmasters fall between two stools. I'd either field a naked unit of seven or up them to 14. I'd be trying to get some Dragon Princes into the list but that might mean taking two infantry blocks rather than three.
There's also a strong argument for making your Noble a BSB. It could pay to drop the White Sword for defensive magic items and a great weapon in that case.
Firstly the magic, offensively this is great. Defensively you have five dispel dice. I think you have enough power dice without the Jewel on the Archmage so I'd drop this for a dispel scroll. You never know when you'll be Gatewayed. The Gem of Sunfire looks good and is nice and fluffy but most people take the Silver Wand to get another spell and make maximum use of the Reckless ability. I'd also consider swapping the Guardian Phoenix for the Golden Crown.
There's a strong tactical argument for swapping the Enchanted Shield for the Talisman of Loec. I wouldn't do it myself but it can be very effective.
The Phoenix Guard and Archers look great. The Spears are a bit under-strength though. I'd bump them up to 20 somehow. Either that or drop to 10, possibly of archers or LSG instead. The Swordmasters fall between two stools. I'd either field a naked unit of seven or up them to 14. I'd be trying to get some Dragon Princes into the list but that might mean taking two infantry blocks rather than three.
There's also a strong argument for making your Noble a BSB. It could pay to drop the White Sword for defensive magic items and a great weapon in that case.
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Re: 2250 army list
Couple of new player mistakes here IMO. The archmage shouldn't be in any danger to warrant the defensive items, and the Gem of Sunfire, while fun, is not the best use of the DM's 'reckless' rule.soulweaver wrote: archmage
lvl 4
talisman of saphery
jewel of the dusk
folariaths robes
If you're doing the Archmage, do it properly. He dosen't need this much protection, and should be taking items to maximise his magic ability - Seer Staff (Silver wand is better on the DM), Ring of Fury and a couple of dispel scrolls
noble
dragon armour
the white sword
enchanted shield
141
Can't take the enchanted shield as the WS is two-handed. Mask of Merlord is good.
dragon mage
lvl 2
guardian pheonix
gem of sunfire
435
Too obvious. Lose the gem, it achieves nothing really. Give him the silver wand, as it gives him so many dice.
15 spearelves
full command
lion standard
185
Need to be bigger - at least 20
10 archers
110
Sure
19 pheonix guard
full command
banner of sorcery
365
Good
9 swordmasters
full command
standard of balance
210
Too small to warrant a Command. A Bladelord at most
lion chariot
140
Yup
2x RBT
200
2xeagle
100
Excellent
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Re: 2250 army list
To be fair PA some quite decent players take the Talisman/Robe combo.
Wouldn't do it myself though. I'd go for something more like the kit-out you suggest.
Wouldn't do it myself though. I'd go for something more like the kit-out you suggest.
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Re: 2250 army list
And I've still not worked out why... If the Archmage is in combat, you're doing it wrong. Not to mention the waste of magic potential - which this list relies on.SpellArcher wrote:To be fair PA some quite decent players take the Talisman/Robe combo.
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Yeah it's very commital and I'd have nightmares about him getting combat-res'd.
Far more fun to pick the spells you like and blast away!
Far more fun to pick the spells you like and blast away!
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Re: 2250 army list
sorry i couldnt reply sooner
spellarcher: i pretty much went over everything abovearchmage
lvl 4
talisman of saphery
jewel of the dusk
folariaths robes
If you're doing the Archmage, do it properly. He dosen't need this much protection, and should be taking items to maximise his magic ability - Seer Staff (Silver wand is better on the DM), Ring of Fury and a couple of dispel scrolls
you may like your mage to have more offensive items i like my mage to have more defensive items
noble
dragon armour
the white sword
enchanted shield
141
Can't take the enchanted shield as the WS is two-handed. Mask of Merlord is good.
thanks for that i forgot
dragon mage
lvl 2
guardian pheonix
gem of sunfire
435
Too obvious. Lose the gem, it achieves nothing really. Give him the silver wand, as it gives him so many dice.
might give him golden crown and silver wand
15 spearelves
full command
lion standard
185
Need to be bigger - at least 20
guess i could use my sea guard models
10 archers
110
Sure
19 pheonix guard
full command
banner of sorcery
365
Good
9 swordmasters
full command
standard of balance
210
Too small to warrant a Command. A Bladelord at most
i read other places that a larger group attracts too much fire power
lion chariot
140
Yup
2x RBT
200
2xeagle
100
Excellent
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