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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:48 pm 
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I am a new High Elves player and wanted to know if this is a good list to use against Orcs & Goblins.

Prince+Star Dragon+Blade of Leaping Gold+Helm of Fortune+Enchanted Shield+Heavy Armour+Lance+extra Hand Weapon 633 points
Eltharion 375 Points(i dont have the new book so i guessed)

20 Archers 220
20 Archers 220
10 Archers 110
10 Archers 110
15 Spearelves 135
15 Spearelves 135

5 Shadow Warriors 80
5 Shadow Warriors 80
10 Dragon Princes+champion 318
15 Swordmasters 225?
1 Lion Chariot 140?

2 RBT 200

Total=2981

Comments and suggestions? Also, Correct me if i'm wrong on my point totals. Thank You!!


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:23 pm 
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Get the army book. You should read some basic tactics articles on playing High Elves from this website, or other army list posts with extensive feedback.


Beating Orcs & Goblins is not typically a big problem, but that is a very poor army list against anything.

Zero magic defense.

Read the rulebook on your Prince's equipment. Prince is illegal for two magic armours. His lance cannot be used because he has to use the magic weapon. Also true of his extra weapon, plus that cannot be used while mounted. The magic weapon is junk because strength 4 isn't enough.

70 longbows will lose to just about everything. Archers are a poor unit and taking them above the min size is just giving away points.

Units of 15 spears with no characters and no upgrades cannot accomplish anything except dying usefully, and a unit of 10 does that just as well.

10 DPs in one unit with no banner and no character is wasting points. The champion is not the first upgrade you buy. Almost certainly better as two units of 5, probably with no upgrades.


The Star Dragon, RBTs, Lion Chariot, and the Swordmasters (although they need command) make sense. But what are you thinking with anything else? Why do you think anything else in there is a good choice? Maybe you have a reason, maybe its a good reason, but my reaction is that could lose to 2000 pts of enemy.

If those are all the models you have, you probably shouldn't be playing 3000 pts.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:58 pm 
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I'm getting the new army book in about 1-2 weeks. I hate not being able to know everything.

First of all, I had no clue that orcs & goblins had magic. Second, I had no clue that you cant have 2 magic armours. Would getting two common magic armor items be legal such as replacing the dragonscale shield with the enchanted shield and whatever the 6+ ward save item is? same amout of points. Third, are archers really that bad? i had absolutley no idea. I always use 10 archer against empire and I usually seem to win. Should the dragon princes be taken out and replaced with pheonix guard or something? Also, Should I just get spearelves to fill the core units and what can I do to protect them. In stead of archers, should I put in some great eagles or more rbts? Lastly, these arent all the models I have. Thanks!!!


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