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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:24 pm 
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Lords:
Teclis [475]
Archmage Lv.4 Steed Sigil of Asuryan, Starwood Staff, Jewel of Dusk [353}
Heroes:
Caraydran [175]
Noble BSB Great Weapon Battle Banner [190]
Core:
Spearmen 23 Full Command [232]
Spearmen 24 Full Command [241]
Archers 12 Hawkeye [142]
Archers 12 Hawkeye [142]
Special:
Swordmasters 15 Command, Banner of Sorcery, Skeinsliver [330]
Dragon Princes 8 Command, Banner of Arcane Protection, Dragon Horn [340]
Lion Chariot [140]
Rare:
Repeater Bolt Thrower [100]
Repeater Bolt Thrower [100]

Other troops that i have to use are 15 White Lions a Star Dragon and Some other heroes.

So any tips from some more experienced player then me on how to make this army better. I generally play Empire (few guns), Warriors of Chaos, Skaven (plague), and Lizardmen and i change my list to these oppenent, ie. take White Lions over archers against Lizardmen etc. :D


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:45 pm 
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I'd place Caradryan next to Teclis, and screen the Sword Masters against missiles.

I'd drop the Hawkeyes.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:36 pm 
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Sir Dark Blood wrote:
Archmage Lv.4 Steed Sigil of Asuryan, Starwood Staff, Jewel of Dusk [353
You can only take 1 arcane item, not 3! The horse does almost nothing for him.

Archers are generally bad, but archer champions are outright worthless.

The Battle Banner needs a horse, just for the armour save. If you want him in a spear unit, give them the Lion Standard too.

Not much reason for 8 DPs when you don't have a good character to join them.

Taking Teclis is really mean.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:54 am 
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Sorry about the arcane items thing it is a house rule at my gaming club that you can take multiple arcane items per wizard, meant to include that in the original post sorry for the mistake. And i don't have another wizard after teclis who is on foot so for the time being he is mounted

As for the hawkeyes i only took them to take up points last time i played i was still 60 pts. or so but they are automatically the first to go along with the archers.

Thanks for the BSB note i just started running him with a magic banner instead of with magic armour, so from now on i'll run him on a horse or with some more armour.
Oh and i love Teclis :twisted: lol

Does anyone think that White Lions are worth it, cause i was thinking of replacing some archers for them instead

Also i will rewrite the list prboally tomorrow with your advice thanks


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Does anyone think that White Lions are worth it, cause i was thinking of replacing some archers for them instead


Luna? no? ok, ill say it

you could defiantly use the extra 15 WLs. take out an archers unit, SMs work better as MSU, splitting them into 2x7, taking out the command/banner/items and wind up putting that stuff on the WLs

any extra points you need can come out of hawkeyes, then subtracting DPs

do you have a FC for the WLs? cause if they are in a block of 15 it really is a must

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Teclis is a wonderful special character. But he must be protected. My daughter was playing him but if she lost him it was over. That was really hard to do with a dragon mage and another mage. It was fun for her to play but probably not fun for the other guy to play against. At this level you can afford to use him as you get another lord.

I like white lions as they are capable of dishing it out and taking it somewhat. I run the captain of the PG with them. Korhil I run in a lion chariot not because of any tactical reason although with three games on my new list 1/1/1 he has worked except when I misguessed the charge range.
He is the only HE character who can go into the lion chariot therefore I had to put him there.


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So thanks to your comments i decided to rewrite the list mostly to include my White Lions.

Lords-
Teclis :twisted: [475]
Prince G.W. Magic items (100 points worth) [262] *see end of article

Hero-
Caraydran [175]
Noble BSB, Battle Banner, Shield [196] (no G.W. for a 3+ save)
Mage Lv.2, Eleven Steed, Dispell Scroll, Jewel of Dusk, Silver Wand [192]

Core-
Spearmen 23 Full Command [232]
Spearmen 24 Full Command [241]
Archers 10 [110] (core fillers)

Special-
Swordmasters 7 [105]
Swordmasters 7 [105]
White Lions 15 Command, Banner of Sorcery, Skeinsliver [330]
DP 5 Command [230]
Lion Chariot [140]

Rare-
Repeater Bolt Thrower [100]
Repeater Bolt Thrower [100]

I dropped the Archmage since i didn't use him much because i used all the dice on Teclis for the any double irrestible that he gets.
The biggest problems i'm having are 1. Choosing the items for my prince and 2. If i drop some items (skeinsliver and dispell scroll), the DP, then 90 more points i could field a star dragon with my lord but is it worth it?
Can anyone shed some lights on these for me and more advice on the list is still very much appreciated. :)
And i planned on running Caraydran with the white lions, BSB with the 23 man spearmen unit, and my Prince with the other group (unless he goes on the dragon) since that came up a bit in the posts.


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I would say that running the Prince on a Star Dragon is always worth it. If only to scare an opponent into tageting him instead of Teclis, or to go after that VC general.

Also, to tool up the prince, the Armour of Caledor and the Vambraces of defences are an effective classic. You can also look at a standard Dragon Armour and shield along with Tamakador's Gauntlets (thank you to ZehKaiser for pointing that one out to me) to proctect against high strenght it, and you end up with about the same AS.

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A star dragon with a lord and Teclis. This would really be fun to play, might be fun to play against. Yeah right. Teclis by himself can be hard to play against. Actually you have to close and attempt to kill him.


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