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- Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:17 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: A question on the minimum core philosophy
- Replies: 56
- Views: 5421
Re: A question on the minimum core philosophy
While I do agree that RXBs may be overrated there is one big differences between rxbs and our archers that make them better. The two shots is nice, but we get an extra 6 inches which can be a real benefit. I would give a slight edge to the two shots, but don't count it as a big thing. They can take ...
- Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:42 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: The Grand Host of Prince Elithmar of Lothern - 2500pts
- Replies: 37
- Views: 5313
Re: The Grand Host of Prince Elithmar of Lothern - 2500pts
If you want light magic go with something like: Lvl 4 + silverwand or annulian crystal or jewel of dusk As your only mage your magic is almost as effective (more in some cases), and your saving a lot of points. Then you can keep the lvl 1 bsb or change the bsb to be more survivable, that is up to yo...
- Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:50 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Shadow and Fire
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3195
Re: Shadow and Fire
The Dragon Mage.....an amazing concept.....a great choice....if only we didn't HAVE to buy the friggin dragon. :( eyup Seconded. Great abilities, wasted on a big flying turkey :/ Anyone ever wish he was just a "eagle mage" you know same rules, rides a eagle... now that wouldn't be half ba...
- Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:59 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Need help understanding how to Deploy
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1193
Re: Need help understanding how to Deploy
Can't add a lot except to cement certain ideas. I like to deploy eagles first because they are maneuverable, and secondly because they don't give your opponent any idea about the true deployment of your army. The same can be said about RBTs and Archers. Small units are effective away from your main ...
- Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:38 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: 2.5k dual archmage
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4000
Re: 2.5k dual archmage
Yep, he switched his list around when he played you. He had greatswords and bigger hordes instead.
Also I cannot do an eagle because that would take me exactly to 625 points, which I am unwilling to do without some protection. Though could do with the etheral robes? Drop some of my other stuff... hmm
Also I cannot do an eagle because that would take me exactly to 625 points, which I am unwilling to do without some protection. Though could do with the etheral robes? Drop some of my other stuff... hmm
- Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:38 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: 2.5k dual archmage
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4000
Re: 2.5k dual archmage
So another game another update. Minor one at that, next time I will try to remember pictures ala eagle prince style. So another game against empire, this time with no shooting however! So he had big horde blocks of troops with detachments. They hurt when they got into combat, fortunately they didn't...
- Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:23 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: 2.5k dual archmage
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4000
Re: 2.5k dual archmage
Hmm well actually it was pretty nice having the second archmage. I didn't get much off but he did really help and I'll explain why. He was casting a lot of other spells, he just used up a lot of dispel dice. For instance vauls and flames later got inordinate amount of dispel dice and are so easy to ...
- Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:57 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: 2.5k dual archmage
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4000
Re: 2.5k dual archmage
You have nailed what I have been thinking for a while, how to make a lvl 2 effective on almost every game without sacrificing the annulian crystal. Well I had been playing with High, but there was still a chance that I would get less than optimal spells, or I should say would only get shield and one...
- Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:41 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: 2.5k dual archmage
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4000
Re: 2.5k dual archmage
So played a game today. Played online but forgot to take screen shots so no batrep but just a short, how it went. Played against empire. I had all the best spells for both wizards (except no pit, had pendulum instead). Lost all my eagles, silver helms and 1 archer unit on my first turn due to panic ...
- Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:26 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Spellcasting and minimum casting values
- Replies: 21
- Views: 3704
Re: Spellcasting and minimum casting values
Slaan +1 to every cast is the other big one i know of. Otherwise tzeentch daemons with their own spell that adds d3+1 like power of darkness (the other way DE add to power dice)
- Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:29 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: RBT vs Archers
- Replies: 34
- Views: 10735
Re: RBT vs Archers
Ok so in defense of the RBT I decided to run the numbers including armor. This includes a no modifier to hit for 10 archers or an RBT. This is amount of wounds (after saves) difference between RBT and Archers (so RBT-Archer) Save 6+ 5+ 4+ 3+ 2+ 1+ t3 -0.11 0.44 0.56 0.67 0.78 0.33 t4 0.148 0.518 0.5...
- Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:56 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: The Uses of Ellyrian Reavers
- Replies: 29
- Views: 11467
Re: The Uses of Ellyrian Reavers
@Seredain- While your analysis looks good and I think brings up some great points I want to play a little devil's advocate and see what you think. You say that 2 eagles would both decide to suicide themselves turn 1 and make your opponent move 1" but what if they did something different such as...
- Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:20 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: 2.5k dual archmage
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4000
2.5k dual archmage
So here is my attempt at a dual archmage saphery list: Archmage 275 Silver Wand, lvl 4, Dragon Bane Gem, Shadow Archmage 300 Annulian Crystal, lvl 4, High Noble BSB 172 BSB, Great Weapon, Reaver Bow, Heavy Armor, Dragon Helm 30 Archers 355 Flaming Banner, Musician 11 Archers 136 Standard, Musician 1...
- Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:55 am
- Forum: General fantasy discussions / Tavern of Cothique
- Topic: Less magic items in 8th?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3574
Re: Less magic items in 8th?
Who knows maybe swordmasters will generate dispel dice and white lions will have heroic killing blow
- Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:40 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: The Grand Host of Prince Elithmar of Lothern - 2500pts
- Replies: 37
- Views: 5313
Re: The Grand Host of Prince Elithmar of Lothern - 2500pts
K, maybe repost your list so that we can look at a new and improved one its hard to keep track what you have done.
Also you can drop the dragon armor to heavy armor on your prince, as the dragon helm does the exact same thing as dragon armor.
Also you can drop the dragon armor to heavy armor on your prince, as the dragon helm does the exact same thing as dragon armor.
- Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:45 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Tactics: Please, I really need to stop getting whitewashed!
- Replies: 22
- Views: 4560
Re: Tactics: Please, I really need to stop getting whitewashed!
Hmm well there are a few good tactical threads around. The eagle one is particularly good imho. http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33028 Otherwise deployment is pretty crucial. Look at your opponents army. What are you going to struggle against. Where can you push through? Are the...
- Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:19 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: The Grand Host of Prince Elithmar of Lothern - 2500pts
- Replies: 37
- Views: 5313
Re: The Grand Host of Prince Elithmar of Lothern - 2500pts
Isn't dragonscale shield the one that gives a 6+ ward. You already have a 4+ ward so its a waste of 10 points. Also you cannot use a shield in combat so that is another waste. What Spell archer is suggesting (please correct if I am wrong) is to drop the dragon armor for heavy armor and then take the...
- Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:54 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Army Lists
- Topic: Assistance is needed:)
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1012
Re: Assistance is needed:)
But as soon as you face lots of T4/5, white lions will dish out more wounds on avarage. Actually not true. Unless they have 4+ saves or better SMs will still do more on average. 3 SM attacks (2 front 1 back) does 1.78/1.33 wounds 2 WL attacks (1 front, 1 back) does 1.48/1.185 with 4+ saves SM are e...
- Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:28 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Want to try something different
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2577
Re: Want to try something different
@Dj Noise- I shouldn't have put down fire so quickly, what I mean to say is that it helps me kill things that I am already reasonable at killing. S4 is pretty good against t3, but gets much worse against say Chosen Warriors, or Temple Guard. Metal gives me the versatility that I can kill those nasty...
- Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:08 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Vauls unmaking vs daemons and dwarfs
- Replies: 31
- Views: 5084
Re: Vauls unmaking vs daemons and dwarfs
In case whomever your playing against disagrees, the daemonic icons where FAQd to be magical standards, hence 1 per army and vulnerable to vauls.
- Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:07 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: 2000 pts a/g Daemons
- Replies: 19
- Views: 3462
Re: 2000 pts a/g Daemons
Well eagles help you get flanks and generally slow his army. Also their are other fun tricks, there is a tactica around here somewhere... http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=33028 There it is! Obviously some of it doesn't work, but a lot of it does and worth looking at. Also you ne...
- Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:12 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: 2000 pts a/g Daemons
- Replies: 19
- Views: 3462
Re: 2000 pts a/g Daemons
For one thing might be easier to read if you simplify it compared to the army builder output. For instance Archamage 315 Silverwand, Talisman of Preservation 15 Sword Masters 280 FC 20 Phoenix Guard 350 FC, Warbanner 21 Archers 231 .... or even Archmage, silverwand talisman of preservation 315 15 Sw...
- Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:49 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Want to try something different
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2577
Re: Want to try something different
Hmm let me explain my reasoning for metal over some of the other lords as my primary. Also this is going to be complicated and probably not make as much sense as I would like but I'll try. Enchanted Blades is useful for 3 reasons: Shooting: Its better than curse of arrow attraction (for a single uni...
- Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:21 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Chaos sorceror Lord on disc of Tzeentch
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2407
Re: Chaos sorceror Lord on disc of Tzeentch
Check out the rules for bound items. But basically the spell is IF and the item burns out. So with ring of corin there is absolutely no drawback as you can only use it once anyways.
- Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:05 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: 2000 pts a/g Daemons
- Replies: 19
- Views: 3462
Re: 2000 pts a/g Daemons
Unless armor saves are the same as ward saves (which in this case I don't think they are) it does not force your opponent to reroll his ward saves. On the other hand it does reduce killing blow to a 1 in 36 chance but I don't think that is worth it.
- Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:35 am
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: 2000 pts a/g Daemons
- Replies: 19
- Views: 3462
Re: 2000 pts a/g Daemons
1 unit of 5 Dragon Princes is mandatory for anti Flamer warfare. Nearly every daemon player will use flamers as they are the best/only shooting option. They will win against most things in assault, except for daemon princes which will tear them apart. Depending on his list he will take a lvl 2 heral...
- Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:59 pm
- Forum: General fantasy discussions / Tavern of Cothique
- Topic: Less magic items in 8th?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3574
Re: Less magic items in 8th?
Actually this does make me want to ask, if you had to pick 10 magic items from our current book what would they be. Right now my list would be something like 1) Banner of Sorcery 2) Armor of Caledor 3) Vambraces of Defense 4) Silverwand or Seerstaff 5) Book of Hoeth (Though maybe just keep teclis) 6...
- Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:58 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Want to try something different
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2577
Re: Want to try something different
So played a game last night against our dreaded cousins the dark elves. Lost by a reasonably significant amount and used metal and high. Now some of the reasons I lost was that I made 2 big tactical blunders, and because I tried White Lions :) Magic was basically useless for the first few turns, low...
- Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:35 pm
- Forum: Rules Questions 8th ed
- Topic: Let me understand this about flaming attacks...
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2919
Re: Let me understand this about flaming attacks...
Who cares about flaming swords, I like flaming cannonballs! But really what everyone else said, was even worse back in the day when you were completely immune (and so was your pet dragon) to flaming dwarven cannons! How do ward saves work anyways, its not like they are force fields or anything (or a...
- Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:49 pm
- Forum: 8th ed - Tactics Forum
- Topic: Want to try something different
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2577
Re: Want to try something different
Hmm yeah tempted to change over 1 unit of SMs to 1 unit of WLs and leave them with a banner of sorcery, then take the banner of swiftness and ironcurse on the SM unit.
The only problem is that I like SM too much
The only problem is that I like SM too much