Ulthuan

Wyssans is the only thing that tempts me to use a unit of chariots, use them as a front on hammer. The problem is, a soon as you have a strategy based on getting the charge and casting a spell you are doomed to fail.

Chariots are excellent. They were better in 7th, and other armies have better chariots, but chariots are awesome. I like tiranoc ones because they are 70pts. The list I'm playing around with at the mo has three of them. Chariots perform three roles, and they do them all very well. 1) Anti Chaff. Wit...

Sound reasoning and plans. keen to see the new list.

I like beasts on elves. Its the answer to all the problems. The sig is just so damned good. The other option would be death. Its a boring lore, but its highly effective. But I do like beats, a lot.

I'm not against the frostheart per sae, but giving up your shooting means you have to be very aggressive. Unless going all Cav I am not convinced by no shooting, as this means you are forced to advance on WoC and Daemons, where as really against these armies anything you can kill from a far gives yo...

Only if I drop the eagle. Which I'm not mad keen about. I like eagles a lot

Elessehta of Yvresse wrote:Caradryan adds some real punch to the army, and Ashtari is great.

But more punch than a regular frostie plus a unit of DP?

The one thing I'm stilling tossing up over is Caradyrn. I don't doubt that hes badass, and makes the Phoenix better and more survivable. However if I dropped him, and the eagle and put in a frostie in the rare section I'd free up 230pts. Those points could be spent on a unit of shadow warriors and a...

solith wrote:I'm afraid I don't have any input on the list, but I'm loving what you're doing with your project log.

Haha. Thank you

Really enjoyed reading this thread. Its quite similar what I'm proposing to do when I can get my Ind themed army up and running. I've a little more invested in characters and a flamespyre, but overall I think the concept is similar. Whilst not uber strong, I think such lists achieve harmony through ...

I'm working on an Ind themed army. I've divided the project into two main ideas. The first is a WOC army based most around Tigermen and Ganesheans and things like that. The second idea is to make an army based around the more human side of Ind. My Ind takes its aesthetics and basic ideas from India,...

I would of thought one of the primary reasons to have Alarielle would be the banner she lets you have. +8 to cast buffs and bubble buffs is absolutely awesome. If you're gonna use her, you may as well get the most out of her.

I'm actually coming to some of the same conclusions. Namely I think combinging the DPs is the way to go. If I do that, I can free up some points and have a unit of 10 helms too, which I think stands me in better stead than the many small units. On the frost Vs Flame phoenix thing: Yes the blue bird ...

I've been toying with the idea for sure. I like that it gives you a stronger magic phase, and frees up 180pts in not needing the lvl 2. But the consensus around here seems to be that it's the star dragon or nothing. And you can't kit out an archmage on a star dragon. And then by dropping down to a m...

I'm really interested in seeing what happens with your list. I've found myself thinking about the wayshard recently. My biggest concern is that you become reliant on those ranks to break steadfast, and if the unit doesn't turn up in t.2 then you can't make the charges you need until t4. Assuming you...

No other characters can join the ambushing unit.only the one with the wayshard. Besides having half your army, your lvl 4 and your 250 pt bolt thrower not on the board until maybe turn 2 at the earliest doesn't sound sensible. If the spears get into combat your wasting the points of alith and the lv...

True, but you guys are both sitting on multiple RBTs, which give you more to do whilst jockeying for position. My main concern with my list is that I don't have alot to do other than fly around....

So I was thinking about the list and I had a thought..... The thought was Cardaryn. Okay, its not a second dragon, but comparing the Dragon Mage to Caradaryn for more or less the same points you get alot more combat potential. You give up the magic, but being forced to use fire isn't a great thing. ...

Avicii: You could think about Blade of Leaping Gold, Enchanted Shield, Potion of strength. Okay you can't re-roll you 2+ but for one round of combat when you need it you can have 6 S7 attacks..... Handy against knight buses or Deamon princes or Dragons....

So all things considered hows about: + Lords + (620pts) * Prince (620pts) Dragon Armor, Star Dragon Golden Crown of Atrazar, Enchanted Shield, Ogre Blade, The Other Trickster's Shard + Heroes + (555pts) * Dragon Mage of Caledor (400pts) Dragon Armor, Level 2 Wizard, Charmed Shield * Mage (155pts) El...

He means that when the dragon charges you put another unit in with a champion (like the reavers) who can accept challenges, allowing the dragon to do its thing on the unit. Without a champion to help out the dragon will often get suckered in to a challenge by an enemy champion to reduce the damage t...

sorry, I meant Sun Dragon.

by stand alone I mean the only monster in your army.
Griffons are quite vulnerable to all shooting, including bows. The 3+ save on the moon dragon makes it much more resilient to small arms fire and poisoned attacks.

Vindicare: I appreciate what your saying, but I actually don't have any interest in going that route. I don't want a single block of combat troops and I don't want two Phoenix. I feel like you are maybe taking the list in a very different direction, and the list is starting to look very one dimensi...

After reading lots of threads on here about Dragons and some of the very interesting army blogs featuring Dragons from both 7th and 8thed Army books I've concluded that Monsters must be a viable play style, and one that totally agrees with how I like to play Warhammer - fast, mobile, tough and all a...

I think the griffon is the weakest choice for a mount. Both the eagle and Dragon are more survivable. For what you have I would imagine the Dragon is the strongest way to go, the breath weapon can be really nice, and would probably work best as a stand alone monster (given you aren't going down the ...

Your army is fantastic. I really like your skin tone!

Your use of colour is really nice and refreshing to see.
Your skills are awesome, nice one.

Very much enjoyed this last battle report. Its good to see lists without ranks doing well, and give me the confidence to try the HE list I want to play.... One question for you: why the reavers over more SH. I know reavers are fast cav, but SH are nearly as fast, alot more durable and hit quite a bi...

Hmmm, some interesting thoughts there. The crown sounds solid, good spot. You may end up being right about the eagle nobles, I have seen some empire lists with multiple captains on pegasus' doing wonders, plus the eagle air force on here, but then I guess maybe because of the flyers and M9-10 things...

No thoughts?