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Agreed. I'm thinking things like Life, RBT and sisters will play a bigger role than normal since they can deal with units that would give me trouble such as monsters.

I had just came from looking at the DE book for the first time and although I knew I had missed some things I felt the need to post anyway after seeing this thread. I understand that I'm jaded and it is coming out in my post but I think the one thing that made me a bit upset was the options for DE a...

I think so far I've decided that I'll be playing mostly Archmages as my lord choices with shadow/life being around 70% of my lores. I also think I'll probably not take a lot of chaff unless it's for thematic scouting armies as they really don't usually return their points. Ranged based armies with 2...

When I first played against the old DE book I was amazed at some of their options. It seemed like their units were very similar to ours but were cheaper along with having some pretty broken spells and items. Everyone I talked to said "well, you know, HE pay for ASF" and I could agree that ...

I realize that was all pretty vague so I'm not surprised there are no comments yet haha. I just wanted any information about campaigns in general and maybe what types of units/armies I should use and avoid.

I'm guessing I'll have 2 armies running around at 2k pts and a 3rd in the 3k range.

I found against ogres I didn't care too much for using eagles, I'd rather have a few more bodies in my combat blocks. Completely agree with what has already been said, BSB is very important against things that hit incredibly hard in the first rounds of combat, re rolling the make-or-break LD test ca...

With a list like that your opponent will probably be coming to you so the hand crossbows might get a shot off and/or a stand and shoot reaction which might make them worth the 2 extra points.

Each army you have can be up to 4,000 points.

So I'll be starting my first campaign this weekend and I still haven't made my list. The master list has the same requirements as a regular list with 25% core, 50% special, 25% rare etc. Right now it looks something like this: Special: 5,000 points in Phoenix Guard. Just kidding. Sort of. I know tha...

I've found that in defensive lists with a good amount of shooting and PG that Shadow is the best lore for my AM. I'm one of the ones who do not like HM so I won't comment any more about that. I think WL are much more defensive than SM. Simply being stubborn seals the deal for me. The other option is...

After reading your initial post I was thinking "hm...nope, if I ran a MSU style list this is pretty much the exact thing I'd bring...except probably 15 WL each and a unit of 10 SH and a unit of 6 SH. Then that is prety much what you changed to :lol: . Shadow is probably not nearly as good in MS...

Before I read all the comments the first thing I had typed was "Have you considered taking Caradryan mounted on Ashtari over the dragon mage?" haha. I know you may be shooting down some ideas because it isn't the way you envision the list or isn't how you want to play, but my main concerns...

I would highly advise against the AM being with your strongest unit. I know it is tempting to buff the ward save to 3 for the PG, but in a lot of situations with HM once you are in combat, you're not going to be able to cast a lot of your HM spells. It is very tempting in theory but I have read and ...

No BotWD and no re rolls with mind-razor...hmm...I hope the other armies have very specific lore and unit combos banned too! Haha. That's silly. I thought that two characters could not both take the same magical item? Both your lords have the same talisman. You should be able to get by without a tal...

No wonder you never take first place! Where are the Phoenix Guard!? Haha, just kidding. I don't think you should "bunker" a character like Alith Anar in a unit like WL or SM. It effectively takes your best special units out of the battle. I think your 5 man units of SH and 6 man units of S...

I think since the question is so vague you will get a lot of vague responses, but I'll try to help. Generally for a tournament you want to build a list that has an answer for anything and everything. This usually means you want to be addressing a few key concepts instead of specific threats. I'll st...

Lol good catch...I didn't even comment on that. I assumed he was mounted. The entire army is essentially in the DP bus and that one noble is on foot by himself with the razor standard haha.

Honestly if a person is bringing a lvl 4 in 1500 anyway they already plan to win the magic phase. I feel you're already conceeding the advantage to him even without the book. I've brought the book every time and so far, although great mathematically it hasn't done much at all. You have to ask yourse...

I don't see the point in a fire phoenix over frost in this list. I think a frost would be much more beneficial at keeping your only combat unit alive. On the dispel scroll note though, I think the dwarf should be the one taking care of the dispelling magic. Overall though I think I'd drop the phoeni...

I really think that this style can be fun but I agree that if you're going to run two mages I would not have both taking HM. The dispel scroll probably won't stop any of the instant game over spells as they will probably be IF on 6 dice. I think if you do want to use the lvl 2 mage Khaines ring migh...

I personally think the minimum LSG should be ran is 24 6x4 so that part I like; I've had a lot of good results with a unit of that size covering the flank. With 10 SH + Noble what is that formation? It seems like an odd number. Usually you see 9, 12 or 15. +1 on squishy SM. I feel if you're going to...

I think this is a classic example of trying to do everything at 1500 pts. Lord level caster hero, Noble BSB, Cavalry, Elite infantry, BotWD, Bolt throwers, full item packages on characters, lots of command, eagle and reavers. I played 3 1,000 pt and 1500 pt games yesterday and I realized that I coul...

Basically I just want to play with SH as my core and I'd like to try a prince. This seemed like a good way to do it! In my previous lists I've had my WL and PG and they are still in here so I don't feel like I'm losing much. What are your thoughts on the DP? I feel without the prince the SH don't ha...

If the noble has a halberd, won't they not be able to use the shield? Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you're tailoring your list for the 1k game you have a lot of things to consider. First of all, TK hit on 5s no matter what I believe and that is why WL and PG are phenomenal choices for elite infantry. Good call. I haven't seen anyone suggest a LM at 1k so I'll try to make an argument for one. I'...

Back when I started getting into warhammer you were able to buy IoB models for about .50 cents a model. I don't think buying the physical box is worth it as getting the IoB models from other sites is still a really good deal. In general the IoB is very good now that the new book has come out. Reaver...

Wow XViper, that seems like GW doing injustice to their own game. It seems like they're just glossing over one of the most important aspects of the game without regard. I'd bet the one who made that rule doesn't know much about the rules nor understands the ramifications of such a decision. One of t...

Wow there are a lot of varied responses! I'm going to take that as a good sign our new book is great! -Any caster. LM, AM or Mage. Only a mage if I'm trying something expensive. -BoH unless I'm really pushing something. -20 or so PG with the Razor Standard. -BSB Noble. Mounted if I have a mounted el...

I'm doing something very similar in my 2400 list, but I have two elite infantry combat blocks in combination with the SH bus. Check it out if you'd like. I feel the prince is a very important part in a SH bus, but I understand you can't afford the AM and the prince in 2k. Have you thought about runn...

I'm a bit surprised that there are quite a bit of views but no comments on this list. Did I post it in a format that is frowned upon? Is the fact that the list is not fully finished dissuading people from posting? I'm curious if there is anything I can do to get feedback on my lists as I really woul...